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Old March 15th, 2020, 04:50 AM   #16
 
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I've had to send multiple revolvers back to Ruger for different reasons over the past couple years. Never due to something like this though. That would have been nasty if one of those rounds had actually fired.

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Old March 15th, 2020, 08:24 AM   #17
 
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For reference, here is what the cylinder latch on my SBH looks like

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I wonder how much Ruger pays for a finger?
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Turnkey is right on the money as to your gun's problem. Send it back to Ruger and hopefully you will get a new gun.
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Old March 15th, 2020, 01:27 PM   #21
 
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It is a must for you to return this Blackhawk to the factory. As the cylinder is not latching. I had this very situation occur with one of my Vaqueros a number of years ago.
I still have the repair order. It lists: Barrel as repaired, Internal components replaced, Cylinder as replaced.
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Thanks, for the input everyone. I think you're right, it's a latching issue. Will be contacting ruger Monday morning. Hopefully they can do something for me. I'll keep the post updated with what happens.
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What was Ruger's response to the issue?
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Ruger support was concerned and wanted to see the firearm. Sent me a prepaid label and I shipped it off to the factory. Will update again when Ruger let's me know the issue/what they will do.
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Ruger support was concerned and wanted to see the firearm. Sent me a prepaid label and I shipped it off to the factory. Will update again when Ruger let's me know the issue/what they will do.
Not to worry- they will make it right.
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Around 1999-2000 had a beautiful high gloss 44mag vaquero brand new, I could easily turn the cylinder when in lock-up. It was repaired quickly.
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Recently bought a brand new super Black hawk bisley Hunter in 44 mag. Super excited to take it out to the range. Made it out there today only to almost have a catastrophic failure. I'm a new revolver shooter so I'm not sure what could of caused this. I shot the first 6 rounds and everything went fine. The next 6 I had 2 failures to fire (Thought I had miscounted my shots due to excitement?). Unloaded the empty shells, and saw 2 unfired rounds. Thought it was weird but I reloaded them in and added 4 more. Went 6 more "shots" of firing, with 3 misses. At this point I realized something was off. Didn't realize how lucky I was though. The last round that wasn't hit in the center, was hit 3/4 of the way, the other misfire right on the edge. If it had ignited the gun would of fired misaligned and exploded in my hands for sure.

I called the range officer over, who was a cowboy action shooter, to see what he thought and he immediately made me take the gun off the line. He said he's never seen anything like that before. He asked if he could have the almost misfired bullet for the pistol safety class he teaches.

Needless to say I was pretty shaken at how close I came to a disaster, and was thanking the powers above that nothing happened.

Any insight into what kind could of caused this? I took pictures of the rounds and what I think is an odd cylinder wear pattern? Let me know what else I should take a picture of if if you guys have any insight. Will also be contacting ruger Monday morning. Thanks.

(First picture is an unfired round)

A problem with the pawl could cause the cylinder to under or over rotate causing the misfire you had. Did you try to spin the cylinder right after it misfired without opening the loading gate?

I had a similar incident happen with my Bisley SBH in 454 Casull. I bought it new and since then I had it only shot 45 Colt rounds without a problem. A few months ago I was with a friend and I had finally loaded some 454 Casull rounds to try. They were only starting loads with a 250 grain bullet.

I fired it first that day with 45 Colt rounds, nothing unusual. I then loaded it with 454 Casull rounds. I fired 10 rounds without incident.

With the next cylinder full the first shot went off OK. On the second trigger pull the hammer dropped without firing. I thought it could be a primer misfire. So I held it pointing downrange for a bit to make sure I didnít have a hang-fire. I then looked at the gun and I could see that the cylinder latch was not showing through the space in between the cylinder and frame. (See the photo). The hammer was still down and the loading gate was not yet opened. So I tried rotating the cylinder and it spun freely. I thought how is this possible?

I opened the loading gate and unloaded it. After closing the gate, the cylinder locked up properly. I looked at the cartridge in question and the firing pin mark was in the head stamp area. I had a bit of a chill when I thought about what could have happened if the firing pin hit on the edge of the primer and it fired with the cylinder off center.

Looking at your pictures it seems like you were a lot closer to disaster than I was.

I have not ever taken the gun apart except the cylinder was out to clean it after each firing. It is as new. It had a total of about 100 rounds or so thru it, all 45 Colt until this happened.

Just coincidentally my friend was using my phone, recording me shoot the gun when this all happened. I have the misfire on video as well as me freely spinning the cylinder with the hammer down and the gate closed.

I called Ruger and they told me to send it in to them. I sent a long letter describing what had happened. I included a CD with the videos on it so they could see what happened. I had asked that they tell me what had happened.

It came back a couple of weeks later. The included work order only said that a CD was included and the pawl was replaced. I am not confident that this is exactly what happened. Yes, a pawl issue can cause over or under indexing of the cylinder. But why was the cylinder latch stuck in the down position, with the hammer down and the gate closed? The cylinder was free spinning.

Iíve fired it with Casull loads since I got I back, but I still feel the need to check to see if the cylinder is actually latched before I squeeze the trigger againÖ

Has this free spinning cylinder issue happened to anyone else?
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I am quite curious as to how this will end. Please us up dated as to Ruger's decision .
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Rugerís workmanship and QC really need to be vastly improved.

The photo of the cylinder stop or bolt shows it can not fit properly into the cylinder cuts.

Get that revolver back to Ruger ASAP.
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