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Old February 13th, 2020, 06:53 PM   #31
 
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There is a way to check which might be better for you.

1. Find a 1/2" dowel or some other item, I used a long wooden cooking spoon.
2. Hold it in your strong hand with half the item above and half the item below your fingers.
3. Take your standard shooting stance.
4. Now close your eyes and raise your gun hand up as if you were aiming at a target.
5. Without moving your hands, open your eyes and look to see if the item is vertical or leaning forward at the top.
6. The more vertical the item is, the more a Bisley will point naturally.
7. the more the item leans forward, the more naturally the P frame grip will point.
8. Standing next to a mirror so you can see your hand will help to see what angle your hand naturally has.

Depending on the angle of your hand has naturally will tell you which grip will work best.
If you have to move your wrist forward or back to get a straight sight alignment, you should try the other grip.

For me, I like the Bisley the best.
I much prefer the "old model" (pre-2005) large frame models.
We have five now and two more (44 mag) in Gun Jail (CA waiting periods).



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My preference is the stainless smaller frame NMV or actually I like the flattop even better for woods carry. Having owned a lot of fixed sight guns, you just never know and sending guns back to the factory is not fun. The adjustable sights fix that problem and you have a much better sight picture if you want to lob a round at the coyote 50 yards away.

Ruger shows an actual 10 ounces difference in the small and large frame, same barrel length. Only matters if you are going to carry it and not hunt big stuff with it. https://ruger.com/products/newModelB...eets/0310.html

Third, if you get any of the Rugers in 45, get the acp cylinder. I did not think I would use it much, but when I run across that cheap tullamo I buy a few boxes and just burn it up. I cast my own about 18 calibers, have molds for most of them, and reload for 6 revolvers that shoot 45, and a 1911, 3 of them fire both the 45 and 45 acp. But today I had carpel tunnel surgery and having a second in 2 months. Reloading may have helped cause it, LOL
Standard 45 acp ammo is a ***** cat to shoot, not hard on the hands at all. And at 71 with old hands it matters.

I even started reloading the steel case 45 acp ammo just for grins. I read an article on it years ago, and it works fine, I just load them light, about 8 grains of Unique behind a 200 grain bullet, about 300 ft pounds. all I need for the first 3 rounds in the chamber.

If you are not yet decided, they are also selling the short Bisley Stainless 44 special, Flattop. Lusting after that one.
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I like the New Vaquero for the reverse indexing pawl. If I had my way Ruger would put it in all their single actions.
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Thank you BGAVIN!

I have used your process for years and never been able to make a list of the imaginary sight system. I have turned down pistols because they did not pass this test. Just recently purchased a 41 mag Bisley with express sights. The first range trip was wonderful. Raised the gun, cocked the hammer, closed my eyes, opened my eyes to see the sights aligned on the target at 15 yards and squeezed the trigger. Six 41 holes in 1.25 group. Put the gun in the case and put the target in the reload book. Good day at the range.
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My range had a case-hardened NM Vaquero, lightly used, in .45 Colt. I had already bought my gun for the year, but at $399 I was mightily tempted.

If I were to buy another SA gun, it would be case-hardened. Ruger did a good job with it.

Plowhandle grips work spooky well for me. Try the test bgavin suggests.

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I'm happy to read all the responses to this thread. It shows how much love we have for all the many varieties of Vaquero. I've enjoyed shooting every one I've ever handled. They are great guns, and I don't think the OP can go wrong whatever style/ finish he chooses. I think they are all pretty and great fun to shoot. My two .45 Colt Vaqueros round out my collection of Ruger single actions and offer good nostalgic firearms enjoyment.
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Took me awhile to put my centerfire Ruger Vaqueros together, its great having the old style yet modern and very strong guns. Two in 44 mag, then a 45colt & 45 acp. Very accurate.

2 are birdsheads, 1 plow handle and 1 bisley. Really appreciate my current variety.

Its also nice to have a couple of centerfires in a lightweight profile though a little extra revolver weight has never bothered me. Best to hunt from a shooting rest anyway and more accurate that way at the range too.
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My take on the Vaquero revolvers.

To me the Ruger SS Vaquero/New Vaquero ar the best looking single action revolvers made for what they sell for in today's market. I own and have owned a fair number of Ruger single action revolvers from my first .44 mag back in 1961 to my ten that I now have. Not all have been trouble free, however most problems were minor and easily solved. I'm glad that many here seem to also like the Vaquero line of revolvers. Just my opinion for what that's worth.
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+1, for the new vaquero. I went with the Talo, birdshead, 3.75, SS, in 45 acp. ( I know everyone said have to go with 45 colt.) but this 45 acp is a great shooter, and ejecting casings is easy. Just my opinion.
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I have used your process for years and never been able to make a list of the imaginary sight system.
I'm just passing along the method used by cowboy shooters far more knowledgeable than me.

I'm a sucker for Bisleys, cuz they feel perfect in my hand.
Yesterday, I had one of my 357 Vaqueros at the range for a quick 100 rounds after my weekly trap get-together.
For me, the Bisleys are a pleasure to shoot.
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I like original vaquero's better than the new vaquero. Both are great gun's.
I have a 5.5 inch original vaquero in 45 colt, color cased and blued.
It's Bisley grip frame make recoil easy on the hand's!
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My range had a case-hardened NM Vaquero, lightly used, in .45 Colt. I had already bought my gun for the year, but at $399 I was mightily tempted.

If I were to buy another SA gun, it would be case-hardened. Ruger did a good job with it.

Plowhandle grips work spooky well for me. Try the test bgavin suggests.
$399 and it would go home with me. Not much more attractive than a case hardened SA sticking out of one of those Mernikle high riding holsters. And it you are not wearing it you can just store in in a display case on the wall.
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Bought an "Old Model" case-hardened frame 44mag Vaquero from a co-worker last year. Fell in love with it, with my 44 special handloads. Followed it with a 44spl "new" Vaquero Sheriff's Model from a forum member. Each shoots POA, same ammo. Will never sell them, never, ever. They shoot like my 22 Single Six and Wrangler. Point, hit where it aims. I love my cowboy guns.
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BTW that's cased colored, not case hardened. Two different processes. Just an FYI. Also, I've never seen/heard about an Old Model Vaquero either. As far as I know they have never been built... I did hear about a custom converted Old Model to a fixed sighted revolver though. . There are however plenty of large frame original Vaqueros and medium framed New Vaqueros... both New Models. So it goes.

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Noted. Wrong choice of description words. Either way, I have a couple of very nice 44 Vaqueros.
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