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Old January 30th, 2020, 10:58 AM   #1
 
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Price disparity between blued and stainless NMBH?

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Does anyone know why there is such a price disparity between a blued version of the NMBH and the stainless version? Same barrel length, same caliber (i'm interested in 357), yet the stainless goes for $150+ more than the blued version.



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Here's some reasons …. stainless is more difficult to cast, it is way more difficult to machine, even drilling and tapping a hole is much more difficult. I think you could sum it up by saying …. there are more man hours of labor involved with stainless to produce the same basic product. The cost of materials is the least of the issue. Carbon steel per ton = $657, Stainless steel per ton = $2406. Raw steel in a 48 oz gun would cost about $1, raw material in a stainless 48 oz gun would cost about $3.60.
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As someone who works on door hardware, I can attest to this fact.
Drilling an 1/8" hole through .050 steel = 30 seconds
Drilling an 1/8" hole through .050 stainless steel = 5 minutes and only that with a carbide bit; with a standard steel bit it is more like 20 minutes
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What Iowegan said. Their expensive drill bits probably wear out much more quickly on SS.
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As someone who works on door hardware, I can attest to this fact.
Drilling an 1/8" hole through .050 steel = 30 seconds
Drilling an 1/8" hole through .050 stainless steel = 5 minutes and only that with a carbide bit; with a standard steel bit it is more like 20 minutes
And oh the pain of turning the barrels. I could imagine that steel and tooling costs will make that disparity even larger as time goes on. Break an insert while turning stainless, it's junked. Break one on regular steel buff it and salvaged.
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Here's some reasons Ö. stainless is more difficult to cast, it is way more difficult to machine, even drilling and tapping a hole is much more difficult. I think you could sum it up by saying Ö. there are more man hours of labor involved with stainless to produce the same basic product. The cost of materials is the least of the issue. Carbon steel per ton = $657, Stainless steel per ton = $2406. Raw steel in a 48 oz gun would cost about $1, raw material in a stainless 48 oz gun would cost about $3.60.
Exactly! (From a former SS surgical instrument maker.)
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$102 at Grab a Gun, if that makes you feel any better.
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Anyone know the ratio of stainless to blue? You do see stainless in the wild, but it seems to be less often than blue.
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Anyone know the ratio of stainless to blue? You do see stainless in the wild, but it seems to be less often than blue.
I guess it depends on what you are looking for. Iím looking for a blue Vaquero or Blackhawk Convertible. Everything I saw in the gun stores and most used stuff; is stainless.
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Depends on chambering, too. If you want a stainless .41Mag, your only choices till recently were the SBH Hunters or the "Accusport" Bisleys & those both limited production runs. Couple years ago, Davidson's got Ruger to do a run of stainless .41 Blackhawks. I've not heard of any more, nor seen one for a while.
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Frontiersman, When Old Models were being made, there was no such thing as a stainless steel gun …. so 0% stainless, 100% blue. Considering all the features of stainless steel I wouldn't be surprised if current production of blued models was about equal to stainless models.

S&W started the stainless steel trend in 1965 with their Model 60, 38 Special DA revolver. Ruger's first stainless steel gun was a Security-Six in the mid-70's with SA revolvers following soon after.
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Depends on chambering, too. If you want a stainless .41Mag, your only choices till recently were the SBH Hunters or the "Accusport" Bisleys & those both limited production runs. Couple years ago, Davidson's got Ruger to do a run of stainless .41 Blackhawks. I've not heard of any more, nor seen one for a while.
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