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Old January 21st, 2020, 10:10 PM   #1
 
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Wrangler - Tinkering gone wrong

Hey folks,
Tuned into the Ruger Forum before & after purchasing a Wrangler. Y'all gave me the confidence to buy, knowing it would be accurate and loads of fun. That all has been true, and I had to go an ruin the fun by opening the gun up. I'm new to looking inside guns (generally mechanically inclined), and I figured a simple SA would be a great place to start.

I disassembled the gun fully (left the striker pin and ejector tube in place but that's about it), polished up any friction surfaces, and stayed away from the trigger/hammer interaction so as not to round off any important corners. The gun went back together (no parts were left on the bench), but when I brought the hammer to full cock, I had to push it back as far as possible in the throw for it to just barely latch. This made the cocking action feel very unnatural (and just plain wrong), so I disassembled and reassembled twice: on the second reassembly it was back to normal, and is still functioning fine! I did notice the lockup has play in it now, whereas it didn't before, but I saw in another thread that this is perfectly normal (just a perceivable change).

Do y'all have an idea what I might have done wrong with reassembly the first few times? Hoping to clear that up so I'm not terrified of getting inside this gun again.
Thanks y'all!



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Old January 22nd, 2020, 03:18 AM   #2
 
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first ... welcome to the forum from the Buckeye State ...

second ... not a clue what may or may not have happened ...

third ... there are a few current and retired gunsmiths around here and i'm sure one will give an opinion, just be patient ...
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Welcome.

You might consider reviewing any and all Wrangler videos on the Ruger Website. Might also consider calling Ruger to see if they can shed any light on what might have gone wrong.

Personally, I don't feel comfortable enough to disassemble firearms beyond standard field stripping / cleaning procedures. As you mentioned in your post, there were no left over parts on the bench. If I'd done it, I think there would've been some extras laying around.

Good luck and please let us all know what the problem is / was.
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Welcome from Michigan. All I can suggest is a trick I use. Whenever I get into something unfamiliar, not just guns, I take out my phone and photograph the heck out of it at every step so that if needed, I can always refer back to how MINE looked prior to disassembly.
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You think a Wrangler is difficult, try disassembling/assembling a P08 luger. First time I did it was a nightmare to get it to function properly even after watching numerous 'how to' vidios. So now, I just do basic cleaning strip downs on all my guns. KISS is good advice.
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Don't sweat it. Some advice may appear here soon. Worst case scenario is you have to send it back to Ruger. It's probably not the first time they've experienced something like that.

I did a complete GP-100 tear-down and cleaning once. It worked well. I don't think your instinct to do so was out of line. Its a sub-$200 gun. Nothing to beat yourself up about. Better than being a first-time-tinkerer on a Python.
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Welcome.

You might consider reviewing any and all Wrangler videos on the Ruger Website. Might also consider calling Ruger to see if they can shed any light on what might have gone wrong.

Personally, I don't feel comfortable enough to disassemble firearms beyond standard field stripping / cleaning procedures. As you mentioned in your post, there were no left over parts on the bench. If I'd done it, I think there would've been some extras laying around.

Good luck and please let us all know what the problem is / was.
Agreed ... if there are tiny springs involved i'm looking for a gunsmith ... just saying ...
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Welcome from Michigan. All I can suggest is a trick I use. Whenever I get into something unfamiliar, not just guns, I take out my phone and photograph the heck out of it at every step so that if needed, I can always refer back to how MINE looked prior to disassembly.
Welcome from NC. brnwlms has the right idea. I owned a auto restoration shop specialized in early model Corvettes.The first thing I did when doing a restoration on any car was photograph every step of disassembly down to last nut and bolt labeled every part. The same holds true for anything I disassemble. It's a good habit to get into.
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Thanks for the replies, and welcomes, folks
You'd think from all the times I've torn into a carburetor and forgotten which screw goes where, I'd learn to start taking photos.. Maybe this time it'll stick!

I've definitely got an itch for poking around inside things, and I figured a simple, sub-$200 gun would be a safe way to get started. Since it seems to be working great now, I'll be putting a few more hundred rounds through it before jumping in again.
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When I was younger, with a good memory, good eyes, and nimble fingers, I bought a used Ruger Standard auto pistol. I was always tinkering with guns so I decided to take it apart and give it a good cleaning. All of you guys familiar with this pistol are way ahead of me, and the ones that aren’t laughing are shaking their heads. Needless to say, I had to just put it away three times (so I wouldn’t lose my temper and do something stupid) before I got it back together. I had a friend who was a great gunsmith but I was too embarrassed to take it to him. I still don’t know what I did wrong the first three times or what I did right the last time. My son has had it for many years now and it still works fine.
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Thanks for the replies, and welcomes, folks
You'd think from all the times I've torn into a carburetor and forgotten which screw goes where, I'd learn to start taking photos.. Maybe this time it'll stick!

I've definitely got an itch for poking around inside things, and I figured a simple, sub-$200 gun would be a safe way to get started. Since it seems to be working great now, I'll be putting a few more hundred rounds through it before jumping in again.
So, did you ever figure out what the glitch was?
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I've done the same thing with the same results. Can't tell you what went wrong other than the obvious - I didn't get the trigger, pawl, transfer bar and/or hammer lined up or associated with each other properly. The fix is to take it all apart again and carefully put it back together again with an understanding of Murphy's Law; which you did. You'd think that SA revolver would be easy, but since you're just pushing parts into the frame and can't really see where they are going, the guns aren't as easy as you thought. Revolvers with side plates are easy - put all the pieces in, pull the trigger and see that it works, then put the plate on. All Ruger revolvers have solid, one piece frames and you have to put them together with an understanding of what you can do wrong.
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I had to just put it away three times (so I wouldn’t lose my temper and do something stupid)
I understand this feeling all too well!
I haven't yet figured out where the glitch was, but after correct reassembly, I ran another 200 rounds through it without a hitch. Now that I've got a calmer head I'll poke around in there some more and see if I can figure what didn't line up.

Appreciate the encouragement and commiseration!
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Glad your back on the line. I too have been there and done that. I took my Mark III 22/45 apart and did not take pictures. I ended up in good shape after using this forum and Ruger customer service. Got it back together and had a gunsmith at the Bullet Ranch in Pataskala OH give it safety check. It is now one of my dearest Ruger's and it gets to the range often. Enjoy and have fun with that amazing Wrangler!
*Take some pics next time too!
*And again welcome to the forum/you found a great place for Ruger's.
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It sounds like you got the hammer strut put in upside down it will still cock, but it takes more force.
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