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Old November 3rd, 2019, 06:06 AM   #1
 
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Wrangler issue resolved

Picked up a burnt bronze model a few months ago and finally got a chance to go to the range. The night before while getting my stuff together, I cocked the hammer and eased it down a few times then it locked up with the hammer half way back and the cylinder would not rotate. Tried to get the cylinder off by opening the gate but it wouldn't drop out being held in by the firing pin.I managed to get it out by pushing the firing pin back with a cleaning rod. The firing pin wouldn't bounce back into the recoil plate by itself via its spring. I thought the spring was broken or it was loaded with some kind of debris. Called Ruger customer service and long story short I asked for and got a new spring and bushing. I kept putting good ole Liquid Wrench in the pin hole and through the bushing and kept pushing the pin back and forth to work the oil into the pins recess. With the cylinder out I dry fired it about 50 times pushing the pin back manually each time and then the pin started to spring back on its own. After about another 25 dry fires it now functions as it should. I've seen on other forums of this happening in other Wranglers. Anyone else here experience this?



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Old November 3rd, 2019, 04:41 PM   #2
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I think there are a few stiffness and sticky problems from the paint on coating. Some have cylinders that drag until you use them enough to wear off the finish. Same with the loading gate, the firing pin, trigger, cylinder pin ...

I have a few ... they can be quirky, but still worth every penny when you get them broke in.
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I think there are a few stiffness and sticky problems from the paint on coating. Some have cylinders that drag until you use them enough to wear off the finish. Same with the loading gate, the firing pin, trigger, cylinder pin ...

I have a few ... they can be quirky, but still worth every penny when you get them broke in.
Yep, patience and the break in, I now totally enjoy this gun. Expect stiffness to go away with use and cleaning.
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Evening, just joined the forum.
My issue is with my new Ruger Wrangler.
The first several hundred rounds thru her were just fine with only slight amount of drag sometimes with a loaded cylinder.
But, now when loaded the drag gets so severe the cylinder gets bound up tight.
I have thoroughly cleaned the cylinder paying attention to the rim recess and the recoil shield. Unloaded the cylinder spins freely and no freeplay is evident. I did notice some wear on the area around the firing pin and also on the loading gate extension where the pivot pin goes into the frame.

And speaking of the loading gate, it remains very stiff to open despite lots of opening and closing it to try to loosen it up.

Just curious, does anybody have these same issues issues?

Thank you!
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Evening, just joined the forum.
My issue is with my new Ruger Wrangler.
The first several hundred rounds thru her were just fine with only slight amount of drag sometimes with a loaded cylinder.
But, now when loaded the drag gets so severe the cylinder gets bound up tight.
I have thoroughly cleaned the cylinder paying attention to the rim recess and the recoil shield. Unloaded the cylinder spins freely and no freeplay is evident. I did notice some wear on the area around the firing pin and also on the loading gate extension where the pivot pin goes into the frame.

And speaking of the loading gate, it remains very stiff to open despite lots of opening and closing it to try to loosen it up.

Just curious, does anybody have these same issues issues?

Thank you!
Give your chambers a good scrubbing, I'd guess there is enough powder build up that the rounds aren't seating all the way and hence dragging on the recoil shield. hth
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Old November 16th, 2019, 10:02 PM   #6
 
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My Wrangler had a loading gate so stiff my 10yo could barely open it. I left it in the open position overnight. That made a noticeable difference, but it was still quite a bit harder to operate than two single sixes I own. So I then disassembled it, bent the gate spring a bit, works great now.
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Old November 20th, 2019, 07:22 PM   #7
 
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Evening, Thanks for the replys.
Well, I had written that I had issues with my cylinder binding while loaded.
I had mentioned that the cylinder was thoroughly clean as were the rim recesses.
After posting here I tried an experiment.
I removed the cylinder and tried 7 different types and brands of .22lr ammo
paying attention to rim heads protruding beyond the rim cut out.
The results were very interesting.
1. 2 brands slipped right in (mag tech and win. wildcats)
2. CCI mini mags HP and solids needed only a gentle push to seat properly.
3. Win Premium also needed just a touch for it to seat.
4. Rem H.P. needed a firm shove to seat but they did seat.
5. Win. H.P. were so gritty feeling and required incredible force to seat.
6. Rem Thunderbolts were so fickle, half seated immediately and the other half refused to seat at all.
No one chamber stood out as problematic.


The baffling results prompted me to again examine the individual chambers. With proper light the chamber walls were absolutely polished smooth and not one tool mark was evident.

My take away is that there are extreme variations in .22lr ammo (obviously LOL.)
The other is that perhaps I have it has slightly undersized chambers and a call to Ruger is in order.
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The cylinders in my Wrangler are tight. Some brands of .22 ammo, such as Thunderduds, are harder to chamber.

Everything on my Wrangler was a bit tight and stiff when it was new, but it has smoothed out a lot with use.
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Thanks Ditto and others for your replies.
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Glad to see this was easily resolved, I have a rifle that won't chamber Remington reliably.
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Yes - I have a post in here about it. My pin would go in if I tried to cock the hammer - so it was not that big of a deal. But after shooting it today for the first time - it fixed itself. It has not happened since. Even after cleaning at home and dry firing - no more sticking.
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My son and I have both shot about 60 rounds through our Wranglers, you can tell it is going to need a lot more to break in and that is fine with us :-)I have noticed that after unloading/loading when the gate is closed you need to rotate the cylinder to it's next stop. Otherwise the hammer locks up, but if you rotate the cylinder to it's stop everything functions smoothly. Next week I am putting in a set of Wolff springs and doing a tu-tone birdshead conversion as well. My son's wrangler will stay stock for the moment.
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ditto1958, This subject was covered in a recent thread: https://rugerforum.net/ruger-single-...ng-issues.html

Here's a snip of my post on the subject;

My first trip to a range with my new Wrangler was a disaster. I had a new box of bulk Remington Golden bullets and none of them would fully chamber in my Wrangler. Is it the gun or the ammo? When I got home from the wasted trip, I found the same Remington ammo would not chamber in my Single-Sixes or my S&W Mod 18. I measured the bullets and found they were about .226~.227" in diameter and my chambers pin gauged at .225", which is uniform in all my 22 LR revolvers. I found CCI Mini-Mags would plunk right in the chambers as would a brick of Federal bulk 22s.

Sometime ago, I had the same problem with Winchester bulk pack 22s in my 22 LR GP100 so I made a sizing die where you push a cartridge in the die against a work bench then tap it back out with a round rod. I tried the die with the Remington ammo and it worked just fine.... all 550 of them. On my second range trip, I took the sized Remington ammo and a couple hundred Federal bulk pack 22s. All of them fired just fine. No problems loading or unloading the Wrangler, no duds, and all were reasonably accurate.

It seems some of the ammo manufactures are producing poor quality ammo with fat bullets. So before you get disgusted with your Wrangler, Single-Six, or other revolvers, break out your digital caliper and measure bullet diameters on a sample batch. Anything over .225" just isn't going to fit in the chambers. These same fat bullets will chamber in my Henry H001T Rifle or my Ruger SR-22 because the chambers are a bit generous.

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Old December 15th, 2019, 11:30 AM   #14
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It is NOT an ammo issue,,, Its been happening to a lot of guys after dry firing,,, Its addressed in this video. The Ruger manual is NOT correct saying the Wrangler can be dry fired.. .. bob

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What video?
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