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Old March 22nd, 2020, 03:52 PM   #1
 
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PC4 vs. PC40

Hi all. New to the show, have lurked from time to time, but finally joined because I found a question I havenít seen yet.

Has anyone compared a new PC40 to an old PC4?

I am curious about people impressions of build quality. I have an old PC4, well worn but functions perfectly. I love that old carbine. I knew they were making new models, but I just recently found out they were compatible with Glock mags. I am mostly a revolver guy for CCW, (SP101, and LCR), but the semiís I do own are Glock. The mag compatibility interests me, but Iím not sure I want to buy and sell just over that.

So my question is to anyone who has spent some time with both: Is the new model as well made the old, would you bother to trade over mags only? I would swap them out just over reliability and availability of mags, if quality is the same or better.

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I can't help you with the comparison as I don't own either. I will say that after buying a PCC-9, I immediately went out and bought a Glock 19x. Needless to say I'm running the Glock adapter in the PCC. To me the magazine compatibility is HUGE. Same concept for my Mini 30 and 7.62x39mm American Ranch. Two or more guns and one compatible mag.

I'd suggest keeping your original PC4 and purchase a new PCC-4 to pair up with your Glocks. If you can't have both...I'd have to think seriously about making the change. Good luck in your decision.

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Thank you for the input. It’s not so much a matter of can’t have both, as a matter of trying to stick to a more minimalist approach to my gun safe. I really scaled down over the last few years, to a modest collection of guns I really like. I don’t need two of these little carbines.

As much as I am itching and sweating like a junkie over one of these guys, I expect once I find one in store that I grope a little, I will probably buy it, and sell the old guy if a kid doesn’t want it.

I am most worried about mag, and part availability. The old guy was a LEO piece, and had a rough first life. It’s fine, but I have no idea how many rounds it’s seen in its life.
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I hear you on the downsizing. Hitting retirement age I've been doing the same thing the last couple of years. That is why the ammo and mag compatibility feature is so significant to me.

After downsizing my two main calibers are 7.62x39mm and 9mm. Toss in a couple .45 auto's just because. Two Mini 30 Tacticals and the x39mm American Ranch cover the rifles. One caliber...one mag for all three.

9mm has the PCC-9 and the G19x covered for the one caliber and one mag. A couple other 9mm's in the mix also.

My PCC-9 has been trouble free. I'd expect Ruger has worked out any bugs on the newer guns and any PPC-4 most likely should be good to go.

Get the PCC if you can find one. Give it a good test drive to make sure it is solid and then move the older PC4 for the downsize.

Good luck.
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I had the new PC 40. Went back to Ruger twice. They cut me a check and scrapped it.
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If I ever buy a new Ruger PCC, it will be a 9MM(my glock is a 9)
I think you would be pretty happy with the PCC-40 and a matching Glock 40 pistol.
I am partial to my original PC4 as well as , a matching P944.
The mag interchangeablity is the key point to the reasoning. /Less fuss./KISS method.
Good luck in your quest.
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I hear you on the downsizing. Hitting retirement age I've been doing the same thing the last couple of years. That is why the ammo and mag compatibility feature is so significant to me.

After downsizing my two main calibers are 7.62x39mm and 9mm. Toss in a couple .45 auto's just because. Two Mini 30 Tacticals and the x39mm American Ranch cover the rifles. One caliber...one mag for all three.

9mm has the PCC-9 and the G19x covered for the one caliber and one mag. A couple other 9mm's in the mix also.

My PCC-9 has been trouble free. I'd expect Ruger has worked out any bugs on the newer guns and any PPC-4 most likely should be good to go.

Get the PCC if you can find one. Give it a good test drive to make sure it is solid and then move the older PC4 for the downsize.

Good luck.
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A few years back, with the exception of a couple favorited hunting calibers, I either gave to my son, or sold everything that wasn’t .223 or .308 in rifles, and either .357 or .40 in handguns. I have some asstd. .22s.

It just got to be too many to keep up with, and the damn ammo, my God! I used to be able to shoot like a crazy man, but changes to my work had just made owning guns a task. The fun was gone.

I kept the ones that really flipped my minnow, cut things to a third of what I once had, and it started to be fun again.

The re-incarnation of the PC is the first firearm that’s even made me think about buying in years.

Thank you for your kind advice.

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If I ever buy a new Ruger PCC, it will be a 9MM(my glock is a 9)
I think you would be pretty happy with the PCC-40 and a matching Glock 40 pistol.
I am partial to my original PC4 as well as , a matching P944.
The mag interchangeablity is the key point to the reasoning. /Less fuss./KISS method.
Good luck in your quest.
Thank you also, for your feedback.

The ďChunkĒ of that old carbine cycling is just too cool. Damn thing weighs twenty pounds. You can almost hear it more than feel it. I thought of trying to find an old P series to mate it to, but parts just worry me. I am mainly a bolt action and revolver guy. I like simple.
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Gotta agree, I think my PC4 weighs about 10 lbs. empty .
As for buying a pistol, I think the old P series Rugers will outlive us all.....they are built 'tank tough".
I wouldn't worry about parts......Ebay /Gunbroker sell parts kits all the time and for less than $100 ,you're set for life
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