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Old March 3rd, 2020, 06:16 AM   #1
 
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I am a beginner , trying to buy the best rifle for training in my local ranch.
I was fixed on RUG 10/22 model 1103 Carbine or model 1102 Sporter. The only disturbing future in both riflee is that the sights are not clearly visible at least for me.
Yesterday I was in one of the stores and saw a rifle, model Takedown TALO Edition Exlusive for $498...It feels very comfortable and lightweight with very good fiber optics. Now I am confused as to which of the 3 should I buy? Which has the best accuracy?
The salesman probably didn't have a "good day" and wasn't helpful at all.
So I decided to google by my self for review of 21188 . Unfortunately I can't find to much information or reviews from user. Instead, stores that sell RUG Takedown 21188 show " out of stock" or" back ordered".. Why is it? Is this model so popular? Or discontinued?
So considering all the above , which rifle should you suggest is best for me?
I am lost, I really need a good advice.
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Old March 3rd, 2020, 06:31 AM   #2
 
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Get the one you can see the sights. I had the same issue with sights on some guns. I had prescription glasses made for shooting. The focal point was set from the closest sight on my guns to infinity. I think it helped my eye doctor is a shooter to. And welcome to the forum.
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The Ruger 10/22 is a fun reliable rifle in all of it's configurations.
The takedown models are convenient for storage and cleaning, also come with a rail to mount optics. It is very fun for plinking and can be used for hunting at .22LR ranges.

If you are looking for the most accurate .22, I would suggest a bolt action as semi-auto rifles by there very design less accurate than bolt actions.

If you are looking for the most fun .22, by all means get the 10/22 that feels best when YOU hold or shoot it. And that brings me to the final point, try to find one you can shoot.

One more thing, if you go with the 10/22, stick to Ruger mags, and the rotary 10 rounders work the best.
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Perhaps get the 10/22 and put a red dot sight on it, or Williams peep sights.
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I agree with CoalcrackerAl.. get the one that is easiest to pick the front up while aiming..

I've had my 10/22 for 50+ years now. It has given me countless hours of cheap plinking pleasure and has also taken a lot of small game. I have bolt actions, lever actions and semi-autos. It's the time you invest in shooting them that will make you a better marksman or markswoman. Enjoy your new gun.
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Thank you CoalcrackerAl, thank you Nomadic Paladin for your quick responses, very helpful, I can hardly wait to select a rifle and get started training.
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Perhaps get the 10/22 and put a red dot sight on it, or Williams peep sights.
It's interesting. Can I use Williams's peep sights with out drilling holes in the barrel? Who does this type of work?
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Agree with all the above! The most accurate 22LR is the one that you are most comfortable with and can see the sights. I went with the Precision Rifle in 22 LR and a Vortex Rimfire scope on top for my old eyes and have tons of fun with it.
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Stock Ruger 10/22s can be made very reliable but do not represent the pinnacle of accuracy out of the box. Like any production rifle, two barrels on two rifles of the same model will likely shoot with different degrees of accuracy.

The carbine and the sporter models are pretty much the same except for the stock. Both have the same barrel and sights. Both come with a combination 3/8" dovetail/Weaver accessory rail that can be easily mounted on the top of the receiver to mount a red dot sight or scope and there are many options for aftermarket rails that use the same tapped holes in the receiver top if the stock Ruger accessory rail does not meet your needs.

It is generally accepted that on average the take-down models are less accurate than the non-take-down models. I have seen this borne out on forums and in side to side accuracy testing. If you don't need a take-down model and are concerned about accuracy, I would go with another model.

As for the sights, I find the stock sights all but unusable. Part of this is due to my age-related deterioration in visual acuity, but the sights are relatively crude in design, like most iron sights on semi-auto 22LR rifles in this price range. There is no provision for windage adjustment short of drifting the front or rear sight in its respective dove tail. Elevation adjustments on the rear sight are awkward and lack repeatability, requiring you to loosen two tiny screws and slide the sight notch up or down by trial and error.

Fortunately, there are a lot of aftermarket sight options for the Ruger 10/22. Tech Sights are quite popular and are pretty easy to install.

A lot of the Talo edition firearms represent limited runs. They persist in virtual reality on the internet long after they have ceased to be available in real life.
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I agree with you that after a while shooting the weight of the rifle becomes very important factor as is the sight . I will use all this information when I finally purchase , thank you.
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Welcome and good luck with your new rifle.

I think you're doing the right thing - getting the one that "feels" right and sights well for you.
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I have Skinner peep sights on my 10/22 TD. They helped my fixed-sight eyes after my cataract surgery. Easy to find the front when looking through the peep.
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The 10/22 is one of the most accessorizable guns out there. You don't have to pick the one just because of the sights. f you don't like the sights, put some new ones on. There are a lot of options. Any gunsmith can replace them for you don't want to try it.

I bought the basic carbine with synthetic stock and gold bead. Didn't really like that so got the Williams Fire Sights installed. The fiber optics really jump out in daylight. (Same sights on my Single Ten). It's the perfect plinker outfit for me.
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The ruger 10/22 is a great little rifle, and soo much aftermarket support.
The Peep sights are a great addition, and when you learn how to use them, far better than the stock sights.
I like the TechSights for the 10/22.
The next thing, is the trigger, sorry, but as much as I love the 1022 and have 4 or 5 of them, the BIGGEST upgrade to contribute to marksmanship next to training is ditching the stock trigger group.
The aftermarket one from Ruger is better than stock, but the 3rd party ones are far better, and really help reduce the frustration of fliers due to a rough and tough trigger.

After that, find a Appleseed group near you (check out their website).
The 1022 is basically the back bone of their training for marksmanship.
If you have a ranch, there's a chance they would love to give / have you host an event on your ranch.
What makes and "appleseed" trainer.. a 1022 with the techsights, and a m1 garand web sling.. and for me an aftermarket trigger group.

Appleseed is a GREAT family oriented program. Safety of the TOP of their list, and teaching the proper basics for marksmanship.

I was a RSO and instructor when we had a local group. I've seen people with a clean basic setup 1022 attempt to qualify (sling and peep sights), but the stock trigger group held them back. I'd lend them one of mine and they would patch. All of mine have a Volquartsen TG. I tried and tested the Ruger BX TG one, its better than stock but still cant hold a candle to the 3rd party TG.
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Here's a few of them.




The scoped one, not good, the scope was cheap and too high, it was removed and replaced with techsights.



But, the family wanted one scoped... so put made this one up. Worked great, daughter loved it, used it to patch at an appleseed.



I wanted to do a scratch build..
The 1022 is the lego of the 22 world... love these things..
My last scratch build, all purchased piece parts,,..

Cant find a Pix of it assembled, but it is.

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