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Old October 5th, 2018, 04:11 PM   #1
 
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Beretta adaptor for PCC carbine

I was looking at a 9mm PCC carbine today and liked it better in person then the pics I've seen. Seems to point well and the sights came into view quickly. A little heavier then I expected but not bad. The only downside to me is the lack of an adaptor for Beretta mags. I realize that probably not many of you can see into the future but I was wondering if there has ever been any mention from Ruger or any 3rd party venders regarding a Beretta adaptor. Thanks



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Old October 5th, 2018, 04:42 PM   #2
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My brother-in-law has stated the same thing. I’m kind of surprised it isn’t available, due to the surplus availability. Maybe somewhere like Tandemkross or Galloway Precision will make one.
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The PCC has been selling like hot cakes so I am assuming there will soon be tons of aftermarket stuff for it. I have 100 rounds thru mine and the only change I want to make is to put the rear sight closer to the rear. Going to put a cheap red dot on it for now but can't wait for someone to make a rear sight for the pic rail. There are some AR sights but they all seem to be to high.
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They should make adapters for Beretta 92, S&W M&P, Sig P320, Sig P226, CZ 75 and the older P series Rugers.
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The PCC has been selling like hot cakes so I am assuming there will soon be tons of aftermarket stuff for it. I have 100 rounds thru mine and the only change I want to make is to put the rear sight closer to the rear. Going to put a cheap red dot on it for now but can't wait for someone to make a rear sight for the pic rail. There are some AR sights but they all seem to be to high.

There is a reason for it's placement. It is where it is so that the front and rear sights stay in perfect alignment. If it were further back, when you remove the barrel, and then put it back later, there is a possiblity that one might be our of alignment, so they just put them together on the barrel. Problem solved from their perspective.
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There is a reason for it's placement. It is where it is so that the front and rear sights stay in perfect alignment. If it were further back, when you remove the barrel, and then put it back later, there is a possiblity that one might be our of alignment, so they just put them together on the barrel. Problem solved from their perspective.
I understand that and am willing to take the chance. I personally am not a fan of the take down option and the only time I may use it is to clean the rifle. I'd rather spend the extra $100 in cost (estimated from 10/22) on ammo.
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Calgryphon,
About a month before the Ruger PC9 came out, I pulled the trigger on a Beretta CX4 Storm in 9mm. Not completely sure why I wanted a PCC, other than having a carbine that would also shoot my 92FS/M9 mags was paramount. Am not unhappy with my decision.

I'm pretty much a traditionalist regarding carbines and firearms. I love the iron/wood features of Mini-14s and Ruger 10/22s and others, so leaping to the very UNtraditional design of the CX4 was a major turn. It was tough accepting the Star-Wars design, but that acceptance was paid back in spades when I received it. Yup, it is not "me", but feels great and - second to my Minis - is my favorite carbine for plinking.

I've mentally debated since the Ruger PC9 was released whether I should have waited, but then again that is always a question we ask ourselves.

I have not handled a PC9, to be sure, so take that into account in these comments. I have no regrets with the CX4 Storm, even though it is nowhere near "traditional" and has far more plastic than I would prefer (fixable) and is more expensive. I like that with a 15-round FS mag, it is fully encased in the hand grip: the PC9's 9mm mag placement/exposure just doesn't seem right to me. I suspect some State limitations may have some impact, but not for me (yet).

I have debated whether or not I should be beating my head against the wall over not waiting for a PC9, and have concluded "no". Things occur at a point in time, and even now, the PC9 doesn't have a Beretta 92FS adapter. Plus, it just doesn't look right with that skinny mag hanging down that looks like an afterthought. Pretty much like the Chiappa M1 Carbine in 9mm: just doesn't look right; regardless of performance.

Looks mean stuff to some of us...

As with most all firearms, I'll wait a bit until the bugs are worked out. It would seem to me that the PC9 is not yet there. The CX4 has potential challenges, but they are being addressed through third-party folks already, and I'll likely partake of some of those expensive options as time goes on.

I would have kicked myself in the butt if the PC9 first came out with a 92FS mod at about the time I pulled the trigger on the CX4, but it didn't. I'm happy with my CX4 and will be unlikely to get a PC9 because of how much I have invested in the CX4 - not to mention the ergos. Plus, it is absolutely fun to shoot!

It is a tough decision these days. Once one gets past the Star Wars look, the CX4 is pretty okay. A few upgrades to convert plastic to metal will be great.

Price is also a factor. But compatibility with 92FS/M9 mags was paramount for me and - at the time - the CX4 fit that bill. No regrets, although I do like the Ruger PC9.

But I'm not going to spend my hard-earned coin on yet another PCC. A month or two earlier, then there would have been a challenge, but there wasn't. And I have no regrets, since the Ruger still doesn't handle 92FS/M9 mags: my primary basis for adaptability.

I wish Ruger well, and understand others welcome to the PC9. I'm happy for them, it is just not for me and my particular circumstances...

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I did look at the CX4 and I'm sure it's a fine little rifle but it just doesn't appeal to me. I can accept a plastic stock that looks like a stock but the design or the CX4 is just a little too creative. Again, I'm sure it is a fine little rifle and the fact that Beretta still makes it must say something.
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I did look at the CX4 and I'm sure it's a fine little rifle but it just doesn't appeal to me. I can accept a plastic stock that looks like a stock but the design or the CX4 is just a little too creative. Again, I'm sure it is a fine little rifle and the fact that Beretta still makes it must say something.
Maybe Beretta doesn’t want to give the okay on the adapter that will possibly take away from their PCC sales?
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I did look at the CX4 and I'm sure it's a fine little rifle but it just doesn't appeal to me. I can accept a plastic stock that looks like a stock but the design or the CX4 is just a little too creative. Again, I'm sure it is a fine little rifle and the fact that Beretta still makes it must say something.
It took me a long time to warm up to a Star Wars looking gun, believe me. Over a year. I am a traditionalist and love wood/iron, so it was a rather big leap for me. It does grow on ya, though... I would not have gotten it if I didn't already have a 92FS and access to a decent supply of M9 mags. Nice combo.
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I may end up getting the Ruger anyway. I currently have a nicely upgraded M&P15 that I just never shoot anymore. The M&P is an extremely accurate rifle but where I live it's heavily wooded and where I shoot 70 yards is about the max range and the M&P just sort of stacks one bullet on top of the last on the target. I think a PC carbine might be more fun because it would be better suited to shorter ranges.
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It took me a long time to warm up to a Star Wars looking gun, believe me. Over a year. I am a traditionalist and love wood/iron, so it was a rather big leap for me. It does grow on ya, though... I would not have gotten it if I didn't already have a 92FS and access to a decent supply of M9 mags. Nice combo.
I can feel you. Way back in 2004, I loaned a friend $100 and he put up his new 40cal Hi-Point with a TruGlo 2x red dot as collateral. He couldn't pay it back so he told me to keep it. Ugly as sin and not worth much out past 100yds even with my hot handloads. I've never been a fan of it so I gave it to my son to play with after he 'liberated' my Glock G22 40cal. He's not a fan either so he uses it to let friends w/o a rifle go out and have something to shoot.
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I may end up getting the Ruger anyway. I currently have a nicely upgraded M&P15 that I just never shoot anymore. The M&P is an extremely accurate rifle but where I live it's heavily wooded and where I shoot 70 yards is about the max range and the M&P just sort of stacks one bullet on top of the last on the target. I think a PC carbine might be more fun because it would be better suited to shorter ranges.
Depending on where I shoot, I'm in about the same boat. There is one location near the barn where a 300-yard shot is clear before going into woods, but I have a .223 bolt gun (Savage) for that.

Haven't handled the Ruger PC9, but the CX4 is short enough to be handy and easily carried/transported, ready to shoot; I suspect the same for the PC9.

It fits my particular shoulder and shooting position just fine (southpaw) and for SD within 100 yards, it is spot-on. Would likely keep heads down beyond that, which is also fine. At least gives me a chance to get to something a bit more formidable...

It is handy in the woods, with closer ranges.

Hope I never need to use it to kill someone/something, but if needed, it will be humane and effective.
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I would buy a PCC tomorrow if I could get inserts for my 92FS, XD and 1911.
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