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Old September 14th, 2013, 08:03 PM   #1
 
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Ruger Mark II Government Model vs. the "U.S" model

Hello, I have a Mark II "Gov't" model for sale on Gunbroker and I am being asked some questions about the gun that I hope to get some answers here about.

I have heard and seen pictures of what is called the "U.S." version of the gun, and it is my understanding that the U.S. version was made to a higher specification for the military. It was also my understanding when I bought my "Gov't" model new that it was also built to a higher spec. There is a quote in another similar topic which says:

"...The basic difference is that we do target the Government Model @ 25 yards with CCI Green Tag ammunition to insure it shoots a 1 1/2" group. This is not to say you might not get the same results with your 5 1/2" bull barrel, but it would not have to in order to meet our manufacturing specificatons. "The Government Model also has a heat-treated chamber which allows us to hold it to a slightly tighter specification..."

The inference I take from that statement is that they Government model was made to a higher spec, and so was the U.S. model, and are they really different other than what is stamped on the receiver? I am going to guess if there are less of the U.S. model vs. the Government model, that would make it worth more to a collector, but it seems that from a shooting standpoint the two are the same, or are they not?

Let me go a step further in the weirdness.... A person interested in the gun has asked about the S/N which is 217-18669. If you go to the Ruger site and look up the Mark II, it says the numbers that year started with 217-48014 for 1992, but I am pretty sure mine was bought in 1991. For 1991 they say the S/N started with 216-68349, but maybe that means the numbers ran from 216-68349 up through 217-48013?

What is more odd, is for 1992 it says:

"217-48014 and 218-00001 "

That is there way of showing the numbers apparently went through the whole 217 range and into the 218-00001 range?

There are two things I am hoping the people here can explain:

1. Is there a difference between the Gov't model and the U.S. model other than one is stamped U.S. and mine isn't? Seems they are both built to a common spec that is higher than the regular target version.

2. Someone sold their Mark II Government model for $700 without the box, original everything, and all the extras I am including and yet people don't want to pay barely half that for mine.

I shot less than 200 rounds through mine and it only had two small scuffs until I took it to a gun show. A gal in the booth next to me cut the nylon strap off of it and used a prying motion to do so which added some little scratches to the top of the receiver.

Anyway, I just want to understand about the distinction in versions and why the other one (non-U.S.) sold for so much more?

Thanks,
Lew



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Old September 16th, 2013, 10:38 AM   #2
 
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!. The book "Ruger and His Guns" says The commercial Government Target Model is identical in all respects, except, of course, being made without the "U.S." marking.

2. It's an auction and folks get caught up in the bidding. Check the "sold" items for Government Target models to get an idea of what they have sold for. Yours should go for more than "half the 700.00."

Oh, and yes, the S/N's show starting numbers for a given year---and pretty certain they go to the S/N that begins the next year.
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Thanks for your reply....

I had listed the gun for more and have been lowering and lowering the price, week after week. Right now it is at $399 and no one is bidding it up.

Yes, $399 is a little more than half, but not a lot. Several people told me it is worth much more, especially considering I have the original box, target, manual plus I am throwing in a holster, a belt magazine holder, and two extra clips. Just the extra stuff is valued at over $100 and are things a person is likely to buy to include with the gun. If you value them at half of what I paid, that does make what I am getting for the gun half of the $700 the other one sold for without anything with it, i.e. no box, no target, no accessories.

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