Mark IV bullet exploded, shrapnel hit face. - Ruger Forum

Ruger Forum

Mark IV bullet exploded, shrapnel hit face.

This is a discussion on Mark IV bullet exploded, shrapnel hit face. within the Ruger Rimfires forums, part of the Pistol & Revolver Forum category; No harm done, the shrapnel hit my face with the force as if one threw it underhand on me this morning. But yeah, not a ...


Go Back   Ruger Forum > Pistol & Revolver Forum > Ruger Rimfires

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes

Old December 6th, 2019, 11:09 AM   #1
 
Join Date: Aug 2019
Posts: 53
Allegheny7147 is on a distinguished road
Mark IV bullet exploded, shrapnel hit face.

No harm done, the shrapnel hit my face with the force as if one threw it underhand on me this morning. But yeah, not a nice thing to have happen. I got the Mark IV target just in the summer, from what I've picked up here in the forum my gun was jamming more then most.
I'm kicking myself for not taking a pic of it. One bullet partially in the barrel, another one on top of that one and what remained of the exploded bullet fragments behind those two (pictured here) I was using CCI stinger,it was about the only bullet I tried that fired mostly consistently. Already on it's way to Prescott Az.
Funny, the guy in front of me was mailing a handgun back also, and was really surprised to hear it was a ruger as was his was. Not joking then the Fedex women waiting on us said her dogs name was ruger, weird morning !


Attached Images
File Type: jpg chamber.jpg (53.5 KB, 182 views)



Allegheny7147 is offline  
Advertisements
Old December 6th, 2019, 11:13 AM   #2
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Posts: 15
Kahless is on a distinguished road
I didn't know you could run stingers in a mark 4.
Kahless is offline  
Old December 6th, 2019, 11:14 AM   #3
 
Join Date: Aug 2019
Posts: 53
Allegheny7147 is on a distinguished road
the ruger guy I talked to on the phone asked me what I was shooting and I told him, he didn't say anything about not using it....
Allegheny7147 is offline  
 
Old December 6th, 2019, 11:16 AM   #4
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Posts: 15
Kahless is on a distinguished road
Glad you made out ok.
Kahless is offline  
Old December 6th, 2019, 11:22 AM   #5
 
Join Date: Aug 2019
Posts: 53
Allegheny7147 is on a distinguished road
my vemon red dot scope, mounted where rear sight was, it was practically at ground zero but fortunately I don't see a scratch on it.
Allegheny7147 is offline  
Old December 6th, 2019, 11:34 AM   #6
 
Join Date: Nov 2019
Location: Tennessee
Posts: 58
DaveTN is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kahless View Post
I didn't know you could run stingers in a mark 4.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Allegheny7147 View Post
the ruger guy I talked to on the phone asked me what I was shooting and I told him, he didn't say anything about not using it....
I didnít know that either, but since Iím about to order a Mark IV Competition; I checked the Ruger website. This is what it says:

Quote:
Question: What type of ammunition should I use in my Rugerģ .22 pistol?

Answer: The Rugerģ .22 pistols are chambered only for the .22 caliber Long Rifle cartridge, standard velocity or high-velocity, manufactured to U.S. Industry Standards. Do not attempt to load hyper velocity, .22 Long, .22 Short, or any other type .22 caliber cartridge into the magazine or in the chamber of the pistol. Use of .22 shot shells is not recommended.
DaveTN is offline  
Old December 6th, 2019, 12:04 PM   #7
 
Join Date: Aug 2019
Posts: 53
Allegheny7147 is on a distinguished road
thanks for pointing that out, I normally use the high velocity rounds but was getting the better performance from the stinger up until this morning.
Allegheny7147 is offline  
Old December 6th, 2019, 12:16 PM   #8
 
brnwlms's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2018
Posts: 2,635
brnwlms has a spectacular aura aboutbrnwlms has a spectacular aura aboutbrnwlms has a spectacular aura about
Sorry OP, how did this happen? Am I reading it right that it was an out-of-battery discharge caused by the jam, aka it jammed hard enough, in such a way that it set off one of the cartridges?
brnwlms is online now  
Old December 6th, 2019, 12:22 PM   #9
 
Longhair1957's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2019
Posts: 18
Longhair1957 is on a distinguished road
If you had multiple bullets jammed in the barrel, it sounds like you had a squib round then kept firing?? Sounds to me like an ammo problem.
This has happened to lots of people with centerfire. Squib round sticks in barrel. Shooter shoots additional rounds. They all jamb in until the gun can’t take anymore.
Longhair1957 is offline  
Old December 6th, 2019, 12:33 PM   #10
 
Join Date: Nov 2019
Location: Tennessee
Posts: 58
DaveTN is on a distinguished road
A squib could be from bad ammo, but it could also be from firing out of battery.
DaveTN is offline  
Old December 6th, 2019, 01:12 PM   #11
 
Longhair1957's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2019
Posts: 18
Longhair1957 is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaveTN View Post
A squib could be from bad ammo, but it could also be from firing out of battery.
A squib load is a load with primer and no powder. That round sticks in the barrel, following shots stack up. Until the given firearm can’t take it.

I’m only guessing squib from the OP description of multiple bullets in the barrel.

Or did I misunderstand and it was only one round fired that did this?
Longhair1957 is offline  
Old December 6th, 2019, 01:31 PM   #12
 
Join Date: Aug 2019
Posts: 53
Allegheny7147 is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by Longhair1957 View Post
A squib load is a load with primer and no powder. That round sticks in the barrel, following shots stack up. Until the given firearm canít take it.

Iím only guessing squib from the OP description of multiple bullets in the barrel.

Or did I misunderstand and it was only one round fired that did this?
I'm not sure quite what happened. I think I had a misfire to start things off. After the incident the incident I took the barrel off and looked through the barrel and it was unobstructed.
I did try shooting the gun again, completely shielding my face, I know probably not a bright idea. The gun then kept misfiring, the bolt stop then appear to be not closing the whole way. I switched to the other mag and it fired ok ?! This squib thing, that doesn't have anything to do with hyper velocity rounds does it ?
I noticed once in the summer, I was shooting over a small body of water, the firing sounded like a dud and a couple seconds later I heard the bullet plop in the water, this was when using high velocity rounds rather then hyper.
Allegheny7147 is offline  
Old December 6th, 2019, 02:00 PM   #13
Retired Moderator & Gunsmith
 
Iowegan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: CB, IA
Posts: 15,393
Iowegan has much to be proud ofIowegan has much to be proud ofIowegan has much to be proud ofIowegan has much to be proud ofIowegan has much to be proud ofIowegan has much to be proud ofIowegan has much to be proud ofIowegan has much to be proud of

Awards Showcase

Allegheny7147, By common definition, a squib is a bullet that stuck in the bore …. for what ever reason. Yes, usually it is a weak powder charge but it can definitely be from firing a cartridge out of battery. MK Series pistols have a disconnector that prevents the gun from going full auto. Many people think this device is to prevent firing "out of battery" …. not true. You can do an experiment to prove this with an empty MK series pistol …. pull the bolt all the way back then ease it forward a fraction of an inch at a time and pull the trigger each time. You will find the gun will not dry fire (sear disconnected) until the bolt is about 1/4" from full battery. If a MK series pistol is fired without going to full battery, the thin brass case head will blow out and vent most of the pressure out of the ejection port …. leaving just enough pressure to start the bullet down the bore and get stuck. What's left of the case from firing a cartridge in an out of battery condition looks exactly like the remnants in the OP's photo.

Time for a "chew out". When you buy a new gun, I firmly believe you have an obligation to read the owner's manual …. every single page. By using ammo not intended for your MK IV, it could have resulted in a serious injury to you or a bystander … possibly a damaged gun too. Please read your owner's manual before you shoot the gun again …. you might just learn something.

Last edited by Iowegan; December 6th, 2019 at 02:03 PM.
Iowegan is offline  
Old December 6th, 2019, 02:07 PM   #14
 
Join Date: Aug 2019
Posts: 53
Allegheny7147 is on a distinguished road
ok, thanks Iowegan. I only went to the hyper velocity rounds after having so many jams with the high velocity rounds. So what happened is a direct result of using these hyper V. rounds ?
Allegheny7147 is offline  
Old December 6th, 2019, 02:50 PM   #15
 
Join Date: Nov 2019
Location: Tennessee
Posts: 58
DaveTN is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by Iowegan View Post
If a MK series pistol is fired without going to full battery, the thin brass case head will blow out and vent most of the pressure out of the ejection port Ö. leaving just enough pressure to start the bullet down the bore and get stuck.
That's what I figured happened. But of course, yes it could be from bad ammo.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Allegheny7147 View Post
I only went to the hyper velocity rounds after having so many jams with the high velocity rounds. So what happened is a direct result of using these hyper V. rounds ?
I doubt it. I would send it in and have it checked out. The only reason you don't have a bunch of damage is because it was a .22.

It doesnít get much better than CCI, so I would play it safe and assume the gun malfunctioned instead of bad ammo.
DaveTN is offline  
Reply

  Ruger Forum > Pistol & Revolver Forum > Ruger Rimfires

None


Search tags for this page

exploded view of ruger mark 4

,
ruger mark iv ftf
Click on a term to search for related topics.

Thread Tools
Display Modes


Top Gun Sites Top Sites List
Powered by vBulletin 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2020, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.6.1
Copyright © 2006 - 2020 Ruger Forum. All rights reserved.
Ruger Forum is a Ruger Firearms enthusiast's forum, but it is in no way affiliated with, nor does it represent Sturm Ruger & Company Inc. of Southport, CT.