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Old October 24th, 2019, 08:38 AM   #16
 
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thinking about an accurizing kit for my MK II 10 in. don't really know why,...
This is typical, and surprisingly honest. It seems to me that 99% of the aftermarket parts get sold because people read what others have done and what "miracles" they claim resulted from doing so. They buy the parts more to "fit in" and have something to post about in forums or other social media, rather than to meet a specific goal. The "kits" are generally overkill for what most people need to make them happy with their guns.

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The stock trigger is just a bit heavy and rough. Just looking to make it better!
Now this is a goal!

You don't need to spend the $$ getting an accurizing kit to reach this goal. All you need is a smoother sear/hammer interface. The sear Ted provided a link to is the only part of the "kit" you would need. The other part of the equation is smoothing & polishing up the hammer notch.

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Pistol Grip Lesson- Shannon Smith- Grand Master and World Champion Shooter
The others that have posted about accuracy are correct about practice. But putting all 10 rounds in the X ring at 25 yards has never been one of my goals. If it were, I'd invest in a setup exactly like Iowegan's wonderful 10" pistol. For my 4.75" fixed sight pistols - I'm thrilled to keep 3/4" groups at 15 yards.

I'll never be as accurate as Shannon Smith, nor as fast as Jerry Miculek. I'm perfectly okay with that.

My goal in modifying my pistols has been about improving reliability. The stock design of the mark pistols is good, but like many other brands - they fail to fire "bad ammo". Easy enough to only buy "good ammo" or accept the occasional failure, but I was obsessed with ending all failures with all ammo. My ideas were initially only that - ideas. I spent a ton of time any money redesigning my MKIII to remove all friction and to find the optimum firing pin design. I no longer believe any thing I read from those who claim "bad ammo" causes failures to fire. My mostly stock MKII will have 1-3% failures with junk ammo (about like anyone else with a "good gun"), but the MKIII never hiccups on anything I feed it. It's boringly reliable.

As far as getting "training", there is value to that. But it's not going to make you a great shooter either. It's about the same as buying the aftermarket parts IMO. I've tried using the "pistol grip" Shannon says is "correct", and it doesn't work for me. I experimented with a variety of holds before coming up with the one that works best for me. But chances are that Shannon's grip will work better for most shooters than what my hold is. So yes, get training; but adapt the training to what meets your needs/goals.

JMO.



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Old October 28th, 2019, 06:43 PM   #17
 
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Shoot more
Train with specific goals
As the goals are reached move them out and add to them
8-10,00 rounds down the road you'll see how much can be accomplished and how little changing the equipment is needed.
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at that point you'll most likely be able to make your own decisions on what should be changed
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I'll just relate my own experience. I have a 1994 MKII stock Standard. I took it in to a shop and directly compared the trigger with a "Volquartzenized" gun. I would not give $0.05 for the "upgrade." The only difference was about 1/8" of take up on my trigger. Other than that I could tell no difference. YMMV. All I do is plink.
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thinking about an accurizing kit for my MK II 10 in. don't really know why, its way more accurate as is than ill ever be, but still...
Pros? Cons? other recommendations?
my biggest issue is I may have to send it off for installation as there are no gunsmiths that I trust around me.
I put a Volquartzen trigger into my new Mark IV Competition because the factory one was just terrible. Yeah, the gun was already more accurate than me, but I couldn't take advantage of that with the crappy trigger. I have modest mechanical skills, and less than average patience, but was able to install the Volquartzen trigger in under an hour. Very happy with the result, and got some satisfaction from doing it myself. Alternatively, I believe you can send it to Volquartzen for the installation.
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