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Old July 29th, 2019, 01:07 PM   #1
 
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Mark III - bolt release lever or slingshot release?

Stainless steel MK III Target. Somewhere I got the idea that it was "good practice" to release the bolt by pulling back on the bolt and releasing it ("sling-shotting"), after inserting a fresh magazine. Then after a while I started using the bolt release lever on the side, since it falls very naturally under my left hand thumb in my firing stance and two-handed grip. I find I like it better at the range because I don't have to take my left hand off the weapon to grasp and release the slide, I keep my stance intact and I acquire a good target picture more readily.

What are the pro's and con's of using the bolt release lever instead of sling-shotting the bolt? If it matters I have the Volquartsen Volthane target grip and their matching bolt release lever.

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Old July 29th, 2019, 01:46 PM   #2
 
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There is no such thing as a "bolt release lever". Itís called the bolt stop. Itís sole function is to hold the bolt open when the last round in a magazine is fired.

The proper way to release the bolt is to pull it back and release it, the so-called slingshot release. Unless something has changed, this is detailed in the owner's manual.
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There is no such thing as a "bolt release lever". Itís called the bolt stop. Itís sole function is to hold the bolt open when the last round in a magazine is fired.

The proper way to release the bolt is to pull it back and release it, the so-called slingshot release. Unless something has changed, this is detailed in the owner's manual.
YEP: Always "sling shot" it. Don't release the bolt using the bolt stop.
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Hate to go against everybody's advice but I have always used the bolt stop lever to release the bolt on all of my MK pistols and have never had an issue with any of them. Have put 5000 rounds plus through the MK 11's and at least 3000 plus through the MK IV and no problem with it.

Worse case is maybe wear the end of the lever to the point where it would not stop the bolt. If that happens put a new lever in and keep on going.
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I often have to use the bolt stop lever to release the bolt because I don't have enough strength in my hands to pull the bolt back all the way to slingshot it. However, if I've been shooting for a little while my adrenaline level gets high enough that I slingshot the thing with no problem! I don't know if it has anything to do with the gun being warmed up also or not.

I've sort of considered getting one of those ugly rings that attach on the rear of the bolt, but I can't put up with much ugly on my guns.
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I always sling-shot the bolt instead of using the stop lever to release the bolt. That's the way the user manual says to do it. But the main reason I see to do so is if you ever use someone elses gun and that's the way they expect you to use it - you don't accidentally tick them off.

That said, it's your gun - so use it the way you see fit.

I have a TK mkiii hammer bushing. It's expected to be used for the hammer to rotate on, but I hate the creep it produces with the 3/8" shoulder. So I use it as a flow reducer to create a better water stream. Who's to say I'm using it wrong?



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Always slingshot a MKIII.

I used to use the bolt stop to release it and now after about 15 years of use my MKIII Target model will not lock open on the last round.
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I always sling-shot the bolt instead of using the stop lever to release the bolt. That's the way the user manual says to do it. But the main reason I see to do so is if you ever use someone elses gun and that's the way they expect you to use it - you don't accidentally tick them off.

That said, it's your gun - so use it the way you see fit.
The user manual is not the holy grail of how a gun should be used. It has good info in it but if you do not follow it word for word your gun is not going to turn into a useless piece of steel. If I can get 15 years out of mine by using the bolt stop to release the bolt as posted in another post I will be happy.

If I was shooting someone else's gun I would respect them and use the gun as they requested. Otherwise like you said my gun use it the way I see fit.
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Neither my MkIV Hunter or 22/45 Lite "Bolt Stop's" are easy to use as a Bolt Release, so I always slingshot a fresh clip. My MkII Standard is easier, but I'm now in the habit of just doing the recommended slingshot action.

Since the "Bolt Open Stops" are an available OEM part for all the above, if it works for you, IMO doesn't seem to be an issue with using it as a Bolt Release!!

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Think about this …. If Ruger didn't want you to use the bolt stop to release the bolt, they would have designed it like a Walther PPK/S, which has a slide stop but no lever so you have to slingshot to load. Also, think of any of the 22/45 models, unless you modify the gun, they will not slingshot because the bolt stop has a detent.

I learned to use the slide stop on my 1911 many years ago to charge the chamber so that's how I use my MK II and MK III. Either way will work just fine.
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Thanks Iowegan, I have been watching this with interest. As a big 1911 shooter myself, muscle memory has me hitting the slide stop with my left thumb as soon as my hand comes into position. Dont even think about it.
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Neither my MkIV Hunter or 22/45 Lite "Bolt Stop's" are easy to use as a Bolt Release, so I always slingshot a fresh clip. My MkII Standard is easier, but I'm now in the habit of just doing the recommended slingshot action.

Since the "Bolt Open Stops" are an available OEM part for all the above, if it works for you, IMO doesn't seem to be an issue with using it as a Bolt Release!!

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My MK IV 22/45 was not easy to use the bolt stop to release the bolt when I first got it. I took the bolt stop lever out and polished the end that contacts the bolt with some 600 grit paper put it back in and it releases easily now but has never not held the bolt back.
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My MK IV 22/45 was not easy to use the bolt stop to release the bolt when I first got it. I took the bolt stop lever out and polished the end that contacts the bolt with some 600 grit paper put it back in and it releases easily now but has never not held the bolt back.
And if it ever does, you can just order a new one!!
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And if it ever does, you can just order a new one!!
Yep !!!!
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Then after a while I started using the bolt release lever on the side, since it falls very naturally under my left hand thumb in my firing stance and two-handed grip. I find I like it better at the range because I don't have to take my left hand off the weapon to grasp and release the slide, I keep my stance intact and I acquire a good target picture more readily.
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You have to take your support hand off the gun to load a magazine. Why not slingshot the bolt, before you re-acquire your two-handed grip.
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