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Old March 24th, 2020, 03:47 AM   #1
 
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New Security 9. Safe to carry loaded?

Hello all, just picked up a Ruger Security 9 in the Jungle Green Cerakote flavor and I've been getting conflicting information on carrying the firearm with one in the chamber with the safety off.

I've been a LEO for 13 years and have always carried my Striker fired handguns with no safety and never thought twice about it. The Ruger Security 9 is my first "Hammer Style" semi auto pistol. With the advertised "95% cocked hammer" it has me second guessing carrying loaded without the safety engaged.

I see Ruger released a "PRO" version of the Security 9 that doesn't even have a safety...only difference is it comes with night sights. This leads me to believe the firearm is safe as a CCW....or Ruger has accepted the liability of a AD.



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Old March 24th, 2020, 04:08 AM   #2
 
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How lite is the trigger is the question I ask? That would be my only concern. It is basically a LCP set up and they have been safe.

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I wouldnt hesitate to carry one in that condition.
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Simply practice flipping the safety off during the draw. You could add snap caps and work on the trigger as well. Finally practice some don't shoot/ shoot so you don't habitually drop the hammer every time.
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Hello all I carrier my Ruger 9 with one in chamber and just use the trigger safety.
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The trigger safety is a drop safety. The Security 9 's safeties are internal.
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The Ruger web site description says the Security 9 has a "hammer catch to help prevent the hammer from contacting the firing pin unless the trigger is pulled".

I interpret that to mean it serves the same purpose as the striker block in a striker fired pistol and makes the gun drop safe and that it won't fire unless the trigger is fully pulled.
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The Ruger web site description says the Security 9 has a "hammer catch to help prevent the hammer from contacting the firing pin unless the trigger is pulled".

I interpret that to mean it serves the same purpose as the striker block in a striker fired pistol and makes the gun drop safe and that it won't fire unless the trigger is fully pulled.
Exactly.

Ruger learned a lesson on first generation LCP models (and ended up with a recall) by using a heavier steel firing pin.

When dropped the heavier pin could overcome the spring that retracted the firing pin after the hammer hit it. Ruger switched to a much lighter titanium firin pin on all subsequent hammer semi-autos. Problem solved.

The "hammer catch" on the newer Ruger LCP II and bigger versions like
the Security series have the same design based parts.
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This is a personal choice. I am not comfortable carrying a concealed firearm without a manual safety unless it is a "true" double action gun. Open carry is a different situation as you do not have to clear concealing clothing. Many ARE comfortable carrying concealed without a safety, but are uncomfortable having a manual safety at all. It has a lot to do with how you train and what you are used to.
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This is a personal choice. I am not comfortable carrying a concealed firearm without a manual safety unless it is a "true" double action gun. Open carry is a different situation as you do not have to clear concealing clothing. Many ARE comfortable carrying concealed without a safety, but are uncomfortable having a manual safety at all. It has a lot to do with how you train and what you are used to.
I am in complete agreement. This is why I donít have any Glocks ... just my preference.
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Just picked up a Sec9 myself. Stays under the bed currently but I still dont keep one in the chamber. I have always wondered, with enough practice (as we should always be doing) how much longer does it really take to draw and rack the slide vs drawing with one in the chamber?
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Just picked up a Sec9 myself. Stays under the bed currently but I still dont keep one in the chamber. I have always wondered, with enough practice (as we should always be doing) how much longer does it really take to draw and rack the slide vs drawing with one in the chamber?
When milliseconds count in a bad situation, that takes far too long the rack the slide. Action is always quicker then reaction. If someone is pointing a firearm at you, your already behind the curve even drawing with one in the chamber.
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Just picked up a Sec9 myself. Stays under the bed currently but I still dont keep one in the chamber. I have always wondered, with enough practice (as we should always be doing) how much longer does it really take to draw and rack the slide vs drawing with one in the chamber?
For a defensive handgun, not a wise thing to do. It takes two hands and an acceptable body position to rack a slide, and significantly more time to get an aimed shot off with. If you had a DA revolver for defensive purposes, would you keep it under your bed with an empty cylinder?

If someone has a semi-auto pistol for defense/carry that they are not comfortable or confident in carrying with or maintaining a loaded chamber, including cocked-and-locked 1911 pistols, then it is time to find a handgun that you are able and willing to do so with.
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Keep your finger off the trigger until you're ready to fire and you'll have no problem.
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You have to do what you are comfortable with otherwise you will drive yourself nuts. I have no problem with striker fired pistols without a safety. This is a bit different and if you are not comfortable without the safety engaged then by all means carry it with the safety on. Practice the way you carry so it becomes muscle memory.
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