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Unread March 24th, 2020, 02:52 PM   #16
 
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The LCP II 380 has no manual safety but has a trigger safety and the firing design is the same as the Security 9. i carried it driving cross country try without incident in a iwb sticky holster.

The LCPII .22lr has the same trigger safety as the 380 model and adds a manual safety and a mag disconnect, presumably because it can be viewed as a trainer for the 380 LCP II.

The Security 9 has the same trigger safety and adds a manual safety but does not have the mag disconnect.

I dont usually carry my Security 9 but I would use the manual safety if I did, not because of concern for the trigger safety or drop safety, but because I tend to always use a manual safety when on a gun (like my M&P Shield 1.0).

I really prefer my Security 9 to my Shield. I find it easier to control. Maybe if I can lose yet another 20 pounds, I'll have enough waist band room to carry it.

As for the trigger, I dont have a measuring device but qualitatively, I'd say the Security 9 is a little lighter than the 380 LCP II and about the same as the .22lr trigger which goes around 6-8 lbs.

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Keep your finger off the trigger until you're ready to fire and you'll have no problem.

Thatís easy to say and simple to attempt. The reality is somewhat different. ďThingsĒ,/stuff like car keys, change trinkets ect can and sometime will get into the darndest places occasionally. Even something as innocent as a jacket Zipper and who knows what else. I know everybody says they never keep anything in that pocket ect but just how many can say they never ever tossed those car keys in there or did whatever. In reality itís just that kind of thing that can cause grief.
I carried my whole LE career ,even carried a glock for much of it. I trusted me behind it but got the jitters a few times standing across from someone with one out. A lot depended on who it was. The only reason I went DAO when retired was I sure didnít want to be switch hitting between types when carrying. Thatís what I went with only DAO hammer type in a standard LCP and SW 642. Itís so very hard to pull that bang lever with anything remotely accidental that itís almostfoolproof. Well as close as you can get.
Drawing and racking IMHO is just too slow unless you have time to get ready. Plus with a 5 / 38 or6 or 7 shot mag that 1 extra round might be needed perhaps badly. For me itís too bad everybody went striker. A nice single double pocket auto would be so ideal in a modern format.


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For a DA/SA traditional double action pocket pistol, you'd have to go outside Ruger, but they are available. The Bersa .380 and Walther PPK would work. I have a Walther/Manurhin PP in .32 ACP which is of mid-50's manufacture and was issued to railroad police in, I think, France. The DA trigger pull is definitely stout.
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You have to do what you are comfortable with otherwise you will drive yourself nuts. I have no problem with striker fired pistols without a safety. This is a bit different and if you are not comfortable without the safety engaged then by all means carry it with the safety on. Practice the way you carry so it becomes muscle memory.
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I got busted back to E-1 too, as have numerous others. I think it's a glitch.

D'oh! I see you posted this in the New Users section too. Carry on.

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I hate to admit my frailties but until I can replace my Security 9 with a small .38 revolver, I have to keep mine with one in the chamber and no safety. My 78 year old hand have to rack mine in the privacy of home.

Hope all yíall live to have the same experience. Better than the alternative, donít you think?
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Security 9 safe to carry

I've carried my Security-9 daily with one in tha chamber and no issues for a year and a half now. Glad to half it by my side.

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Just my opinion ...

A semiauto without one in the chamber is a metal brick.
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A semiauto without one in the chamber is a metal brick.
What he said! why would you ever carry an empty gun? Do you think that a bad guy set on harming you is going to stop assaulting you long eneough for you to pull out your gun, unlock the safety, rack the slide, and fire. NOT!
Why do you think police carry DAO pistols ?
All guns carried in a holster should be loaded.The holster and your trigger finger are your safeties.
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I got busted back to E-1 too, as have numerous others. I think it's a glitch.

D'oh! I see you posted this in the New Users section too. Carry on.
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Simply practice flipping the safety off during the draw.
I wouldn't carry without one in the chamber and think most CC guys agree with that. Where there is widespread disagreement is on the safety/no safety issue. I won't carry anything without a thumb safety, but many others don't feel it's unsafe to carry without one. It's largely a matter of opinion and what you are comfortable with.

I usually carry an M&P Compact 9 which is in many ways similar to a Security 9, and in fact both will fit the same holster. The Ruger is a fair amount lighter which is a plus in carry guns. My Security 9 has a thumb safety and I would consider it as a carry gun but for the fact that the safety is to me much harder to disengage while drawing the gun than the bigger lever on the M&P, which is why I don't carry it.

That's my thoughts on the matter, but we each have to make those decisions on our own. No one can say which is right as it's a personal preference.
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What he said! why would you ever carry an empty gun? Do you think that a bad guy set on harming you is going to stop assaulting you long eneough for you to pull out your gun, unlock the safety, rack the slide, and fire. NOT!
Why do you think police carry DAO pistols ?
All guns carried in a holster should be loaded.The holster and your trigger finger are your safeties.
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The person that posted about keeping an empty chamber in a semi-auto was referring to his gun kept under his bed for home defense. If properly stored, a fully loaded/chambered semi-auto pistol kept for home defense is perfectly safe.
My earlier point was that one may not be in an ideal position when it is necessary to use that "unchambered" pistol for home defense.
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I've been a LEO for 13 years and have always carried my Striker fired handguns with no safety and never thought twice about it. The Ruger Security 9 is my first "Hammer Style" semi auto pistol. With the advertised "95% cocked hammer" it has me second guessing carrying loaded without the safety engaged.
13 years of daily carry, and you haven't shot yourself yet is a pretty good track record. It's all about trigger discipline.

I leave the safety on my carry auto's off when I'm out and about, as the safety's are small and hard to find fast, and stiff when I find them. When I (rarely), carry one in a pocket holster, the safety is on, as getting it out of a pocket fast, well, a finger tip in the wrong spot hauling it out could seriously damage my "manhood".

It depends, if you might need it fast, you need an accessible holster anyway. Your call for sure.
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For a DA/SA traditional double action pocket pistol, you'd have to go outside Ruger, but they are available. The Bersa .380 and Walther PPK would work. I have a Walther/Manurhin PP in .32 ACP which is of mid-50's manufacture and was issued to railroad police in, I think, France. The DA trigger pull is definitely stout.
It's a little big for pocket carry but you might check out the Springfield XDE.
The 3.3 with flush fit mag is pretty compact, racks easy and is definitely a quality build. I liked the 3.3 but recently decided to try the 3.8 model, Goldilocks for me.
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