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Old March 10th, 2020, 07:50 PM   #1
 
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1911 mag release

Hello, I'm new to the site and forum. A problem has brought me here in hope of a solution. I purchased a "like new" SR1911 and trying to feed Wilson Combat mags in it is near impossible unless the mag release is pushed in. The Ruger mag that came with it seems to have been modified to feed into the well. Since I've not owned a Ruger 1911 before is this a Ruger modification to make it function or Bubba Engineering? Either way I'd like to be able to use normal mags in the pistol. Thanks



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Old March 10th, 2020, 08:33 PM   #2
 
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Welcome to the forum a lot of good help and info here.

If you have to push the mag catch in to insert a mag the mag catch needs to be tweaked a little to let the mag go in smoothly. I had to fit a mag catch on one of mine to get it to work correctly. There are some good YouTube videos that can walk you through it.
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Thanks for the quick response. My search terms are not accurate enough to pull up the video you refer to.

"magazine catch insert 1911"
"magazine catch 1911"
"magazine catch problem 1911"
"magazine catch problem 1911 insert"

There are several teaching me how to replace it and modify it if it doesn't drop out. I found one on a desert eagle but I would like to see if there is another method.
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I own several 1911s and always push the mag release button in when I insert a fresh magazine. It's a habit I got into back when I carried a Commander as a duty gun that makes magazines operate trouble free for a long time. What you want to avoid is …. making it too easy for a magazine to be seated. Why? Because the magazine latch may not hold them in position good enough to prevent your magazine from falling out when you are in a crisis situation.

More magazine related tips: 1911s were designed for the magazine to be loaded with the slide locked back where a magazine inserts and latches very easily. You then release the slide lock to chamber a round. After the last round has been fired, the slide will lock back automatically so all you have to do is release the spent magazine, insert a fresh magazine, then release the slide and you are good to go. If the slide is forward when you load, the top round contacts the slide, making the magazine difficult to seat. This often results in a damaged magazine and/or a squished top round that fails to feed. Also …. never smack the base of the magazine with the palm of your hand …. great for TV shows but damaging to magazines and magazine latches. If you load a 1911 the way is was designed to be loaded (slide locked back) you will never need to smack the base of the magazine because it seats without effort.

The easiest way to do a rapid reload with a 1911 is to hold the grip in your right hand, use your left hand forefinger and center finger under the front of the slide to pull the muzzle to the left while your thumb is positioned firmly on the mag release button. This extra leverage makes it easy for the magazine to drop free. With your left hand, grab a fresh magazine (lip on the base pointing forward) from your magazine pouch and insert it in the gun. It should snap in very easily. Once the magazine is in place, merely release the slide and you are hot. After you practice this technique a few times, you will find it very quick and fumble free.

Removing the magazine latch is very easy. First, remove the magazine. Next, use a small flat tip screwdriver on the screw located on the right side of the mag release. Push the mag release button in part way to relieve some of the spring tension then turn the screw until it stops at 90 deg (it will only move in one direction). The mag latch assembly will then drop out of the right side of the gun. Look for the "ramp" on the latch …. sometimes it may not be machined properly. Never file the "shelf" on the mag release deeper or your magazines won't position properly and will cause feeding problems. My guess …. there's nothing wrong with your magazine latch …. it's probably because you are inserting the magazine with the slide forward. The top magazine in your photo shows some damage but it shouldn't be enough to cause problems.

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I've tried inserting the mag with the slide forward and back with the same results. The mag with the bend goes in fairly easy either way and the mags without require more pressure than I am willing to try more than a few times. I would think with all the improvements put into this they would have allowed for reasonably easy mag insertion. I know this is no _________ (fill in the blank pistol) but, I've owned a fair share of pistols and even ones I hated would take a mag.
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Iowegan gave you a detailed description on how to remove your mag catch watch out for the little spring sometimes it can take off to parts unknown. Sometimes when you put it back in the frame you have to hold your mouth just right but it will go in if you get it in the right position.

Try a search for how to fit a 1911 magazine releaseit should pull up several good articles for you.
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I've tried inserting the mag with the slide forward and back with the same results. The mag with the bend goes in fairly easy either way and the mags without require more pressure than I am willing to try more than a few times. I would think with all the improvements put into this they would have allowed for reasonably easy mag insertion. I know this is no _________ (fill in the blank pistol) but, I've owned a fair share of pistols and even ones I hated would take a mag.
Send it back to Ruger, they will take care of it.

You should not have to depress the mag release to insert a mag. The pistol should take any reputable manufacturer's mags.

Prior owner may have blacksmithed the mag release.
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I was taught to press the catch in when inserting a magazine , less wear and tear on both the catch and the magazine. Both last longer , insures the magazine seats properly .
Press the catch in and also taught not to pound the magazine in with the palm of my hand, that just leads to more wear and tear .
But I didn't learn the 1911 from watching U-Tubers on the internet .
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Do you have the same issue when the mag is loaded? If so, get it fixed. There might have been some modification, but usually a loaded mag will load easier because the rounded profile of the bullet will start easing the mag catch out of the way allowing the magazine to insert better.


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Welcome to the forum from Illinois.

Sounds like the previous owner did some custom engineering. My Kimber needed a little lube and breaking in to accept my mags reliably but does so now.
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Do you have the same issue when the mag is loaded? If so, get it fixed. There might have been some modification, but usually a loaded mag will load easier because the rounded profile of the bullet will start easing the mag catch out of the way allowing the magazine to insert better.


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Haven't tried it loaded yet. Will probably take it to the range this weekend and run some lead through it, if the weather is nice. Still want to see if the mags function even if they dont slide in.

I'm not a 1911 "person" but I've had a couple and don't recall this ever being an issue. Obama got me back into shooting and since then I've brought or traded probably 80+ pistols. This is the first I've had requiring this extra procedure. I may send it in to Ruger. I'm not planning to CC it and mostly will use it for a range toy or house protection. Still Id like it to function like 99% of the other guns I've owned. I've owned the P85, SR22, LCP, Mark 2+3 and I'm sure a few others I forgot. Never had a mag feeding issue. Always had confidence getting a Ruger product.
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Once you figure out the problem with the release, another thing you need to check, whenever you buy any new magazines including the one that comes stock, is to visually verify that each magazine is not making any contact with the ejector tip when inserted and held all the way up. Magazines have been known to make contact with the ejector tip and that will loosen it over time due to inserting them with speed. Remove the slide, insert a magazine and looking closely for any contact. It's easier to see with the slide off.

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Haven't tried it loaded yet. Will probably take it to the range this weekend and run some lead through it, if the weather is nice. Still want to see if the mags function even if they dont slide in.

I'm not a 1911 "person" but I've had a couple and don't recall this ever being an issue. Obama got me back into shooting and since then I've brought or traded probably 80+ pistols. This is the first I've had requiring this extra procedure. I may send it in to Ruger. I'm not planning to CC it and mostly will use it for a range toy or house protection. Still Id like it to function like 99% of the other guns I've owned. I've owned the P85, SR22, LCP, Mark 2+3 and I'm sure a few others I forgot. Never had a mag feeding issue. Always had confidence getting a Ruger product.
You dont need to go to the range to check it out. What I would do is take the top off, and maybe even the grip panels and take a flashlight and watch what is happening. Take a look at how the magazine interacts with the mag catch to get a better idea of what is happening. Try it with the different mags and maybe with a cartridge on top just to see what is going on. Doing this will probably be more helpful than just going to the range as you will be able to see what is going on versus just checking to see if this works vs if that works. Once you take the slide off, you can get a pretty good view as the magazine catch is not that far down.
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So I took a file to the mag release. Slowly shaved it down till the mag fed with a bit of a push. Still could be a bit easier when closed but slides in like butter when open.

Range trip out of 100 rounds I had 2 fails to feed. One chambering and one while shooting. Seems like the first round is a bit tight in the mag. Will leave it loaded for awhile to see if it lightens the spring.

Overall I think its acceptable performance to now.
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