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Old March 8th, 2020, 01:14 PM   #1
 
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SR9c lighter recoil spring for arthritis?

My elderly dad has arthritis/strength issues now which really limits his ability to rack a slide. Has anyone installed a Galloway Precision 14lb spring assembly in a 9c to ease racking the slide? Any issues if you've tried it? I have two SR9c's so he could try one of mine.
And 'Yes' we have tried several different pistols for him (S&W 380EZ but the backstrap safety was an issue; currently trying a Walther CCP 9mm).



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Old March 8th, 2020, 01:33 PM   #2
 
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Would your dad be using the gun for defense, casual shooting, or both? Galloway recommends the 14# only for light handloads. Recoil will be more pronounced with this spring set with full power ammo, as well as causing additional wear to the gun. Once you start monkeying with spring rates, you can also introduce additional unforeseen and sometimes tricky to sort out reliability issues. I would be more inclined to suggest a slide racking assist device of some sort. Not ideal for defensive use, but doable. Two flavors:

https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1018761599

https://www.cabelas.com/product/null/2392400.uts

I'm not sure what size Handi-Racker would work with the SR9c, but maybe someone else knows.
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I have arthritis and an SR9c. I haven't had too much of a problem yet but I know it will get worse. Because of that I find myself shooting revolvers more frequently. A small revolver like the LCR has a pretty light DA trigger and there are no slides or recoil springs to manipulate.

I have also found pistols like my Ruger P90 or Beretta 92 with ambidextrous slide mounted safeties make it much easier to grip the slide and work it. However, it seems the DA trigger pulls on those pistols is harder for arthritic fingers than most revolvers.

There are options. I wish your dad well in finding a way to make the SR9c easier to handle or finding another system that works.
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I have a friend with carpal tunnel issues. He uses one of these at the range to save the strain.
https://shopruger.com/Slide-Rack-***...uctinfo/19997/

He can rack the slide fine, but repeated times at a range trip causes soreness afterwards. He says this aide has been a great addition to the range bag.

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Use will be concealed carry. I don't think the racking aid would be of intereste; just something else for him to keep track up. I had wondered about the revolver option. He tried one before but has been really set on having 9mm. Also finding an external, totally concealed/flap covered holster might be an issue for a revolver.
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If he has his heart set on the 9mm cartridge specifically, there are a number of 9mm revolvers out there now, including Ruger's own SP101 and LCR. I know Taurus has one also, and I believe RIA has one coming out at some point.

Looking at it, the new RIA (AL9.0) may be a bit large for your dad's use (and availability seems nil at this point, though it is appears to have been released already). However, I also discovered that Charter Arms has a compact 9mm Pitbull revolver. I have no experience with Charter, but it's at least another possibility to look into.

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As an arthritis sufferer who has a hard time using a fork, I can easily rack any slide I have tried to date. It is as much in the technique as in hand strength.
1. Grip the gun in the shooting hand.
2. Using the non-shooting hand, place the pad of the palm on one side of the slide (left side if you are right handed), with the pads of all 4 fingers on the serrations on the other side.
3. Using the shooting hand, push the gun forward while simply holding the slide in place.

Now, I have always had a strong grip (until the arthritis), so I'm not saying this method will work all the time for everyone, but it is amazing how much easier the overhand method described above is compared to the slingshot method.
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My elderly dad has arthritis/strength issues now which really limits his ability to rack a slide. Has anyone installed a Galloway Precision 14lb spring assembly in a 9c to ease racking the slide? Any issues if you've tried it? I have two SR9c's so he could try one of mine.
And 'Yes' we have tried several different pistols for him (S&W 380EZ but the backstrap safety was an issue; currently trying a Walther CCP 9mm).
If the backstrap is the only issue with the 380 EZ the backstrap safety can be pinned so that it is permanently in. That would be bypassing a safety so not sure if he would want to do than. But if that was his only problem there is a workaround for it.
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H&K VP9, full size and compact have small “ears” at the back end of the slide. Pretty unobtrusive but I find that I gravitate to them when shooting it (full-size VP9). I’m 58 and racking a slide isn’t getting any easier. HK’s are usually pretty pricey, even on sale. With our aging population and hopefully the success of “EZ” models more manufacturers will also adopt the slide ears. Best of luck on finding a practical solution.
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S&W now makes the Shield EZ in 9mm, racked one at the LGS, heavier than the 380 but not bad. I carry a Springfield XDE 3.8 in 9mm and it is almost as east to rack as the Shield EZ 380 but is an DA/SA pistol which I happen to prefer. I'm not too crazy about messing with factory recoil spring weights in a defensive pistol.
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If he has his heart set on the 9mm cartridge specifically, there are a number of 9mm revolvers out there now, including Ruger's own SP101 and LCR. I know Taurus has one also, and I believe RIA has one coming out at some point.

Looking at it, the new RIA (AL9.0) may be a bit large for your dad's use (and availability seems nil at this point, though it is appears to have been released already). However, I also discovered that Charter Arms has a compact 9mm Pitbull revolver. I have no experience with Charter, but it's at least another possibility to look into.
With the option of an LCR or an SP101 in 9mm, it may be worth looking into. The LCR is super easy to conceal, even in summer clothes. My wife shoots .38ís out of mine, and thinks itís fine, so 9ís arenít gonna be much different.

My dad has arthritis, and generally declining strength, so autos were just getting to be more of a hassle for him than they were worth. I loaned him an SP101, and he bought one after his first trip out to shoot. Itís the only gun he ever uses anymore.

Good luck in the hunt for a solution. Itís tough watching dads grow old and have trouble doing the things they taught us when we were young.
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ÖItís tough watching dads grow old and have trouble doing the things they taught us when we were young.
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