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Old March 8th, 2020, 06:41 AM   #1
 
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Steel cased rounds

Is anyone having problems with steel case rounds in their LC9s or EC9s. I go to the range once week, and I own a LC9s and my friend owns a EC9s and both gun have problems while shooting steel cased rounds, they donít feed out of magazines. Both magazines are stock from Ruger, while shooting slide will open like itís empty, you have to re-rack gun to finish shooting ??? Brass & Nickel cases have no problems . This is not good if you have to use it for defense and this happens when you need it


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Old March 8th, 2020, 07:11 AM   #2
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Don't use steel for defense then.

I occassionally use steel for plinking, but never rely on it. Brass is your friend with high quality defense rounds.
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I personally would worry about the steel cases being hard on the extractor, but that's just me.
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Easy answer, don't use steel case ammo. I would never use steel case ammo in any of my guns but that is just my opinion. A lot of guys use it and it works for them but if it doesn't work for you do not use it.
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I have fired a lot of different ammo types thru mine with almost no issue, but have avoided steel cased due to concern over wear. That said I have seen multiple accounts of where steel cased ammunition can cause bore damage and the lacquer finish can start coating the chamber causing extraction / ejection problems. Also if it is of foreign manufacture, there are frequent claims of mis-feeds and such.

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If you have issues with it, donít use it. There is a lot of conflicting information on steel cases ammo, some is factual and some is fake/rumor/speculation. Personally, I have fired exactly 0 rounds of steel through all of my guns, including a 7.62x39. I decided a long time ago it wasnít for me, plus I reload so I always want brass. But regardless of what is rumor and truth, if it doesnít work it doesnít work.


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One of the major issues with steel case ammunition is that it doesn’t expand and contract at the same rate a brass cartridge does. This is the reason why people complain about how dirty their AR’s chambers get when using steel. Add in the fact that 9mm is a straight wall cartridge with no taper to it, it can cause a problem. The problem is it can throw the timing of in semi auto pistols, not all, but some. It looks like you have one that takes issue with steel case. That said, don’t use it for SD.

As far as steel case ammunition being harder on extractors and barrels, maybe, but that’s another topic.
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Not a metallurgist, but steel on steel needs lubrication. Brass has been used because of it's softer nature. Some steel cased ammo uses lacquer on the case, which also causes problems. You could lube the extractor area with a dry lube, this may help. The problem with other lubes, is that lubes, and primers are a bad combination as most have penetrating qualities that kill primers. The best advise is to use steel cases only for cheap practice, or not at all. I have used steel cased ammo, but prefer to just pay a little more, and save the brass.

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I have used steel ammo in the past, some in hand guns some in rifles. For the most part no problems. However I have a couple of guns that will not work with anything but brass. My marlin lever action 537 mag warns in the owners manual about using aluminum cased ammo. Check your owners manual to make sure there aren't restrictions on ammo. But if your gun doesn't like the ammo don't use it.
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Steel case ammo for self defense? I can't think of a single brand of defensive ammunition loaded in steel cases. It's cheap range ammo for blasting IF your gun runs it. Hornady makes "Steel Match" which at least offers accuracy for less expensive target shooting. I can't imagine having such a low value on my own life that I could justify saving a few dollars by carrying the cheapest steel case FMJ loads for self defense.
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Add in the fact that 9mm is a straight wall cartridge with no taper to it, it can cause a problem. timing of in semi auto pistols, not all,
but thatís another topic.
The 9mmx19 is NOT straight-wall. It has a taper. Put two 9mm rounds side by side (touching) and you'll see space between the two cases near the mouth.
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Steel case is awful.. I tried it a few times, and it was the absolute worst,, stay away from it, or maybe use it in revolvers, bolt action rifles, stuff like that .. NOT in auto loaders..If you want to use cheap ammo, I would try aluminum case.. cheaper than brass, and it has always fed perfectly in my semi automatic pistols and carbines.. I really like Federal aluminum case... bob
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The 9mmx19 is NOT straight-wall. It has a taper. Put two 9mm rounds side by side (touching) and you'll see space between the two cases near the mouth.
I’m not going to split hairs over .011 of an inch......it’s enough to cause issues.
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Do your magazines have metal followers? I have read that steel cased ammo feeds better from mags with plastic followers because the steel does not slide across the steel followers in some magazines.

I do not know this for certain, because I don't use steel or aluminum ammo anymore. My experience is that it dirties the gun up enough that I would rather pay a little more for brass (or nickel in defensive ammo).

I mitigate that cost by buying most of my practice ammo as factory reloads. I use Georgia Arms or North Georgia arms most of the time, but have also had good luck with Freedom Munitions.
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I use steel cased ammo more frequently in revolvers. My kel tec sub 200 has no problem with steel cased 9 My ruger pcc in 9 no problem my pcc in 40 not so much.
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