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Old January 13th, 2020, 06:12 PM   #31
 
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Old January 13th, 2020, 07:44 PM   #32
 
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Is the CM9 a picky eater?
I have not had any problem with any ammo. HST, PrecisionsOne, etc. Shoots all kinds of Training ammo. Have been putting a lot of Wolf and Tula through the gun and it eats them up. Been buying that ammo through Targetsports for $6.43 per box or $129.00 per thousand with free shipping to my door. The Nano's eat the stuff up as well.
The second Kahr, I actually bought used. Gun was in NEW condition, traded a Ruger LC9S for it. Got heck of a deal.
Shot 50 rds before buying it and ran great. I now use it for a range gun and carry the other one. Very sweet shooters, nice smooth DAO.

PS the First Kahr ran great first day right out of the box.

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I have not had any problem with any ammo. HST, PrecisionsOne, etc. Shoots all kinds of Training ammo. Have been putting a lot of Wolf and Tula through the gun and it eats them up. Been buying that ammo through Targetsports for $6.43 per box or $129.00 per thousand with free shipping to my door. The Nano's eat the stuff up as well.
The second Kahr, I actually bought used. Gun was in NEW condition, traded a Ruger LC9S for it. Got heck of a deal.
Shot 50 rds before buying it and ran great. I now use it for a range gun and carry the other one. Very sweet shooters, nice smooth DAO.

PS the First Kahr ran great first day right out of the box.
That's good. Amazing how semi auto pistols run these days. Not like the bad old days. That Nano sounds like a real work horse. I shot my LC9S Pro yesterday for the first time in a year. First mag, nothing but steel. Still hasn't missed a beat. More accurate since the new barrel a couple years ago. Shot the Gen 2 LCP the day before that with the same results. Both eat everything. Can't complain about either one. Someday I would like to get a Pico or Nano though, they sound good.
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I have had a CM9 for years never had any issue with it, shoots everything and i carry it alot in shorts weather.
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Just remember every time you go down in size and weight with the same round you will increase the felt recoil. At some point you will most likely want to cut down on your practice.

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The Kahr is so easy to shoot, Kahr did something in the design that helped make this gun so smooth. For years, I did not think about the CM9 because I though the recoil would be too much. It is the smallest in class. Yet I was surprised by the lack of felt recoil. I have shot all the guns below, except the Hellcat.
For instance, Myself along with 5 others shot the 365 and many of us felt the pistol shot very similar to the Ruger LC9S. Albeit a tad less recoil and muzzle flip. Later checked and you can see they are close. While the Kahr has a listed value of more, it does not feel like it. Actually feels much smoother. But that could be subjective.


Diamondback-DB9---9.28
Keltec PF-9------------9.79
Kahr CM9---------------7.7
*Ruger LC9S------------7.24
*Sig 365------------------6.99
Sig 938--------------------6.99
MP Shield-----------------6.8
Springfield Hellcat------6.78
Glock 43X------------------6.93
Beretta APX Carry/Nano--6.18

he APX carry/Nano is ridiculously easy. Heavier barrel and receiver does a great job of mitigating muzzle flip.
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That's good. Amazing how semi auto pistols run these days. Not like the bad old days. That Nano sounds like a real work horse. I shot my LC9S Pro yesterday for the first time in a year. First mag, nothing but steel. Still hasn't missed a beat. More accurate since the new barrel a couple years ago. Shot the Gen 2 LCP the day before that with the same results. Both eat everything. Can't complain about either one. Someday I would like to get a Pico or Nano though, they sound good.
Good Point. I use to think I was just lucky because the vast majority of my firearms have never had any problems. After so many years, I now believe it is the Norm. Personally I believe any manufacturer will have less than 1% failure rate.
User error, bad ammo, internet parrots, attribute to more failures than the actual gun. Some internet guy will say something like "I will never own a gun that will not shoot any ammo". Lol, well ok, yet I do not own a gun that I have tried every single ammunition made through one. Yes, I own nice guns that will not shoot every ammo made, but so simple to find the right ammo and know your guns.
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I've conceal-carried an EC9S for 2+ years in a Ruger OWB holster. I shoot about 2 mags/month at the range with no issues whatsoever.
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I confess that I carry a Remington R51, and I am very happy with it.
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I happily carry my SR9c for regular EDC with my LC9s pro for lighter EDC. Both guns are awesome to shoot and are reliable. You would be happy with the LC9s pro, but agree that trying it, if possible, would be ideal.
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EC9s returned

My EC9s has been sent back to Ruger numerous times for repair. The first two times were for a broken striker, and the second time the pistol had only been dry-fired. Ruger replaced the slide and striker assembly both times. When the EC9s was brand new, the slide got stuck during an initial field strip. I missed the NOTE on instruction #5 (donít rack the slide without the takedown pin installed). The tech at Ruger advised me over the phone to bash the slide with a hammer until the slide returned to its proper position, which I reluctantly did. The slide again got stuck, along with the barrel. No bashing helped this time. The pistol was returned to Ruger for repair the third time. Ruger decided to destroy the pistol and send me a replacement. I bought a second one since I liked the first one so much (in spite of the problems). Both the new one and the replacement exhibited frequent failures to feed. Both went back to Ruger. They both are now functioning fine. Ruger customer service has been courteous, helpful, superb, fantastic. I like the EC9s because I shoot accurately with it. I like how it feels in my hands. I like the safety, the magazine disconnect, the takedown process, the sights (I painted the front), the trigger, the magazine latch, and the slide serrations. Iíve had to send back Security 9s four times for repair and an LCP II twice, all within a year. Ruger reliability does not match customer support in my experience.
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My wife carries the LC9s, and it is a wonderful gun. Trigger breaks at 4.5 lbs, as good as any I can build on a 1911. I have both the Glock 43 and KelTec Pf9 and several 380s. The Keltec is the smallest made, 12.7 ounces and smaller than the Glock. I carry in the front pocket of jeans and it never shows. The Glock and the Ruger both stick out of the pocket.

The KelTec is not for recoil sensitive as it is so light, but worth it to me. Mine has never had an issue. I carried handguns for 4 different law enforcement agencies going back 50 years, and I have zero worries with the KelTec and highly recommend it. It is in my pocket ever day while a couple dozen more expensive guns others carry ever day, are in my safe. FWIW
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For some reason, I want to try the lightweight Keltec. Especially after purchasing the P32. I like the fact that the parts are so easy to replace to include a complete grip and trigger assembly. I would also like to shoot the DiamondBack DB9 Gen4.
No they will not replace my Beretta or Kahr, but there is just something I find intriguing about them.
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I too carry the LC9 and find it light, accurate, and manageable. You wonít be sorry with an EC9, promise.
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For some reason, I want to try the lightweight Keltec. Especially after purchasing the P32. I like the fact that the parts are so easy to replace to include a complete grip and trigger assembly. I would also like to shoot the DiamondBack DB9 Gen4.
No they will not replace my Beretta or Kahr, but there is just something I find intriguing about them.

I also want to try out a Naroh N1. One of my range buddies called the other day and was crazy happy with it. Said he sold his newer Sig 365 which it bought last October. Said this little gun shot much better. And happy to get a DOA hammer fired gun this smooth. To tell you the truth, I had never even heard about it until I got the call from him.

https://naroharms.com/naroh-n1/


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