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Old December 27th, 2019, 06:01 AM   #1
 
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LCP 2 mag drop issues!!!

Hello all. I have searched around on here and have seen many posts from folks having issues with their little LCP 2 in regards to the mag dropping under recoil. I bought mine two weeks ago and I am having the same exact issue. I have tried everything to include changing my grip to keep thumbs away from the mag release, to putting talon grips on the thing. Nothing has worked ☹️. I love the little gun and I need deep concealment in an environment where my life very well may depend on this weapon.

I will be shipping the firearm back to Ruger today, but what I would like to know is if any of you had the same issue, and sent it off to Ruger to have the issue fixed....did they ACTUALLY fix it? Has the issue repeated since you sent it off and got it back from Ruger?

I love Ruger and Glock firearms and I really don’t want to buy a bodyguard 🤢 and a G42 isn’t a real viable pocket gun option. Thanks!



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Sorry in advance for the long post, but, yes, I have had the same issue, but fixed it (at least temporarily) myself.

I purchased a new Ruger LCP II with the 7 round extended magazine about five months ago, along with a couple of extra 6 round magazines.

I believe in practicing enough to matter, so I would take it to the range every few weeks and shoot 25 rounds.

The first 50 rounds, the gun performed perfectly, no malfunctions. Given that it’s such a tiny gun, I was pleased with the accuracy out to 7 yards.

The next 25 rounds, I had one incident of the magazine dropping out. I assumed, like everyone else seems to at first, that I had accidently hit the magazine release.

The next time at the range, I had started having a LOT of magazine drops. One magazine that I had installed the finger-rest floor plate on, was the worst, dropping out almost every shot. The extended 7 round extended magazine would drop about every other shot. One magazine that I left the flat floor plate on behaved, with no drop-outs.

I made sure I was not hitting the magazine release button, and noticed that whether the magazine dropped out or not seemed to depend on whether I was exerting any force at all on the floor plate either downward (curved finger rest) or to the rear (extended magazine) . The magazine with the flat floor plate did not drop, I believe, because to hold that small gun with that magazine, I have a finger underneath the magazine, so it can’t go anywhere.

After thinking about it awhile and doing some internet searching, and wanting to avoid shipping it back to Ruger if possible; I ordered a new magazine latch and spring from Ruger, and replaced those. It was a very simple thing to do, using a hemostat clamp that I had for another hobby. A pair of long, thin needle-nose pliers would probably work, too.

After replacing the magazine latch and spring, the guns shoots good as new now. No more magazine drops. But … I’ve only put 30 rounds through it so far.

Examining the old magazine catch, it appeared to be a little worn where it contacts the slot in the magazines - can’t even feel any wear but it’s just a little brightered there, like the surface treatment wore off. Apparently it does not take very much wear at all to cause the magazine drop problem to become chronic.

What I’m expecting now is that I’ll start seeing magazine drops again at any time again, as I shoot the gun more.

So here’s the dilemna: I purchased this gun for high-concealment carry (pocket carry in a pocket holster). For that purpose, I want to have high confidence in the reliability of the gun; but also need to practice with it. But, the more I practice, the less confidence I have in the reliability of the gun!

Basically, I can only count on it 100% as a single-shot! Otherwise, I suppose I could hope is that using only the flat floor plates on the magazines, with a finger hooked under the magazine, it would be usable - but who wants to carry a pistol that one has to hold the magazine up into it?

I’ll keep taking it to the range to see if starts acting up again, and if it does, send it back to Ruger next time. I did notice that the new magazine catch had slightly different dimensions than the old one, such that it held the magazine a tiny bit higher up in the well. Maybe that matters. I don’t know yet.
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Hello all. I have searched around on here and have seen many posts from folks having issues with their little LCP 2 in regards to the mag dropping under recoil. I bought mine two weeks ago and I am having the same exact issue. I have tried everything to include changing my grip to keep thumbs away from the mag release, to putting talon grips on the thing. Nothing has worked ☹️. I love the little gun and I need deep concealment in an environment where my life very well may depend on this weapon.

I will be shipping the firearm back to Ruger today, but what I would like to know is if any of you had the same issue, and sent it off to Ruger to have the issue fixed....did they ACTUALLY fix it? Has the issue repeated since you sent it off and got it back from Ruger?

I love Ruger and Glock firearms and I really don’t want to buy a bodyguard 🤢 and a G42 isn’t a real viable pocket gun option. Thanks!
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More like an old code used in the comics when I was a kid. That was to denote saying something you would not want to print.
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As far as the mag drop issue, it is likely a burr or sliver of metal from manufacturing that ended up in the mag release and has worked its way into the spring, not allowing it to fully engage. If you are comfortable removing it and blowing out the area with compressed air, the problem will likely go away. If not, send it to Ruger and let them do the work.

As pistols break in, there are often burrs or out of spec parts that wear during the first couple hundred rounds. Take a pistol apart after 300 rounds and you will see wear marks that will not wear more over the next 1,000 rounds. That scraped metal ends up somewhere
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The 🤢 means sick as in vomit 🤮....😁. As far as the mag release wearing out, I’m not sure....mine didn’t it with 3 brand new mags and a brand new gun, and almost immediately upon the first box of ammo☹️. I sent it off to Ruger today. I’ll definitely post an update after I get it back and shoot it. I really really like this fun and I really really rely on deep concealing as it would cost me my job if I was found out but I don’t care....you ask me to transport large sums of money but won’t let me have a firearm? BS
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Ok so I wanted to follow up with those interested and give an update...I got my LCP2 back from Ruger yesterday. The form said that they changed the whole frame assembly. The only thing left from the original gun was the slide, barrel, and trigger assembly themselves. Now, I’m thinking why the heck would the frame assembly have anything to do with the mag release but ok....whatever.

I have to get new talon grips now though. Anyway, they said they ran 100 rounds of ammo through it afterwards without any issues. I just got done shooting the gun myself. After 120 rounds this morning, I too had no issues whatsoever. Not a single mag drop.

It appears as though the issue has been resolved. I want to than Ruger for their quick turnaround and customer service too. They took care of me far better than the FFL that I purchased the weapon from. That’s a whole other story. But at 7 and 10 yards, the gun is accurate and I never had a hiccup after 120 rounds. I think I’ll run another 100 through it soon just to make sure.
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Awesome, glad Ruger got it figured out for you. Sucks that you and to send it in but I think that's pretty common now days....in my personal experience anyway. Enjoy your new, new LCP2!
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I have exactly 459 rounds through my 2 week old LCP II and have not experienced any mag drops.
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We have 3 LCP2s in the family. None have had that issue but with 2 of them the mag requires a hard slap to insert it correctly. No big deal.
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Well, I spoke too soon....yesterday I took the gun out and shot another 50 rounds and you guessed it....mag drops galore. I’m so frustrated right now. I just ordered an aftermarket mag release spring from Mcarbo. Their spring is supposed to be more beefy and stiffer than the factory one. I just gotta figure out how to get the old spring out and put the new one in.

Someone else on here mentioned that a looser grip on the gun will help. I agree...it’s my third finger putting downward pressure On the mag under recoil. But I shouldn’t have to worry about that! I won’t have time in a real world situation to check for that “just perfect” grip to ensure the gun will run. Not acceptable imho for a gun even this small to be that finicky.

And pointers for removing the old spring and installing the new one? I think a scribe will work just fine to remove the old one but putting in the new one is going to be a pain...or at least it looks that way.
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I ground down the button on my Gen2 LCP with a dremel because I was getting mag drops in my left hand pocket. That was after a trip back to Ruger didn't help. Grip tape also helped with mag drops while shooting.
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Did that help? I think I’ll try the stiffer spring first.
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That took care of it.
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Mine did that after about 1100 rounds or so. Contacted the factory and sent it in. They were Johnny on the spot, and Jack Flash quick with repair and return. No problems after that.
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