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Old December 22nd, 2018, 04:59 PM   #1
 
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Need .22 for training that is similar to Security 9

I need a .22 for training that is similar size and trigger as my Security 9. I think the SR22 is out since the safety is opposite direction (stupid). I also cant fathom spending over $300 considering my security 9 is only $300! Thoughts?



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That's probably your best option unless you want to go with a different full size 22 pistol. Walther offers the PPQ in 22, and S&W has the M&P in 22. Both are going to cost you $300 at least. Honestly though instead of spending the money on another gun, why not just buy more ammo? My rule is that any training should be on what you're already carrying and training for. Even if there was a Security-22, you can bet on the trigger not feeling the same as your Security-9.
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^^^What Revolver Guy said^^^ The recoil impulse of a .22lr is not the same as 9mm. Sure you can work on your grip, trigger squeeze, & stance; but all that muscle memory will be different on the larger pistol. Try dry firing the pistol (no ammo in gun of course) & watch your front sight. It should not move when you squeeze the trigger. Iíve heard of people balancing a nickel on top of the slide while dry fire squeezing the trigger, it should stay balanced & give you a clue to where your grip is inadequate by which way the nickel falls. Make sure you get a high hand grip with your firing hand & firm grip with your support hand. Practice is the only way youíll get better other than maybe taking a training course.


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Stick with the security 9. I just got one and ran through a quick 200 or so squaring away the run in. I'm now dry firing during commercials during the football games and looking for best ammo prices online.

The SR22 is not a bad analogy for the sec9. I have both and the hand feel is similar, but the trigger quite different. Trigger is way more important than the safety in results.

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I went with the SR22 and never looked back. Mine is a good dependable trainer and I have no issues with it. I rented others and chose the Ruger SR22 and purchased x2 additional extended 15 round mags for a total of 5 good mags(x2, 15 rnd and x3 10 rnd) for the range and have had NO issues as others may have reported after 2500 rounds of flawless shooting. Before that I used my neighbors Phoenix that was believe it or not more accurate and fired each time I pulled the trigger at half the cost! Get what you feel is best for you and just enjoy the heck out of it!
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Someone else mentioned just training with your primary and I have done that as well but ended up back to using a 22 for practice and fun. Either way you go you can not go bad with quality range time as long as I take time to get to know and safely use the firearm. Someone also mentioned for me something important just practice, practice and practice. Being a older new shooter this year that was the best thing I did was just get out and practice.
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I went with the SR22 and never looked back. Mine is a good dependable trainer and I have no issues with it. I rented others and chose the Ruger SR22 and purchased x2 additional extended 15 round mags for a total of 5 good mags(x2, 15 rnd and x3 10 rnd) for the range and have had NO issues as others may have reported after 2500 rounds of flawless shooting. Before that I used my neighbors Phoenix that was believe it or not more accurate and fired each time I pulled the trigger at half the cost! Get what you feel is best for you and just enjoy the heck out of it!
Ditto on the Phoenix. I have had the SR22 since they first came out. Thousands of rounds down range. However, I like the Phoenix so much better. Just fantastic little guns. And they can be as accurate as you want to make them. Great for point and shoot drills. Very nice trigger, much better than the SR22. And very reliable.



Here is a target where I literally moved from top to bottom, and just mixed them up and pulled the trigger as fast as possible, pulling the trigger before my eyes seemed like they focused on the next target.

Great for all kinds of speed drills for point shooting.

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Ditto on the Phoenix. I have had the SR22 since they first came out. Thousands of rounds down range. However, I like the Phoenix so much better. Just fantastic little guns. And they can be as accurate as you want to make them. Great for point and shoot drills. Very nice trigger, much better than the SR22. And very reliable.







Here is a target where I literally moved from top to bottom, and just mixed them up and pulled the trigger as fast as possible, pulling the trigger before my eyes seemed like they focused on the next target.



Great for all kinds of speed drills for point shooting.





After seeing this post & researching the HP22A, I went & got one. My usual lgs didnít have any, two pawn shops later I found this one for $169.99. Canít wait to try it out! Recently sold my Sig P290 & got to missing not having a mouse gun. I have a shield .40 but itís just a bit larger than a pocket pistol. I donít pocket carry much but like having the option. Read about how you can modify the safety to make this pistol more like a regular pistol. Gonna put a few hundred rds through it as is before doing this.


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I have the Security 9 and SR22. The SR22 is great, but not really a trainer for the S9. Just fun practice.

Your best bet for a comparable trainer is probably a S&W M&P .22 Compact.
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I need a .22 for training that is similar size and trigger as my Security 9. I think the SR22 is out since the safety is opposite direction (stupid). I also cant fathom spending over $300 considering my security 9 is only $300! Thoughts?
One thought sheriff, if you are still monitoring this. You mention the SR22 as costing as much as or more than the security 9. That will be the case for any quality .22, but the savings isn't in wear and tear on the firearm, it is in the ammo.
decent 9mm ammo is at least $9/50 IF you buy in bulk
decent .22LR can be found for $3/50 whether you buy in bulk or not
fire 500 rounds and you have saved at least $60 and have had fun doing so. As far as being a perfect trainer, that's not going to happen with any secondary firearm, but at least you can work on sight picture and trigger control. If using a .22 to train, you should shoot that first and then finish with your security 9
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Take the money you'd spend on a plinker and buy at least a case of 9mm and practice practice practice.
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I went with the SR22 and never looked back. Mine is a good dependable trainer and I have no issues with it. I rented others and chose the Ruger SR22 and purchased x2 additional extended 15 round mags for a total of 5 good mags(x2, 15 rnd and x3 10 rnd) for the range and have had NO issues as others may have reported after 2500 rounds of flawless shooting. Before that I used my neighbors Phoenix that was believe it or not more accurate and fired each time I pulled the trigger at half the cost! Get what you feel is best for you and just enjoy the heck out of it!
Wow I have never had 2500 rounds in 22lr that did not have a few duds no matter who made them , you should play the lottery.
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Take the money you'd spend on a plinker and buy at least a case of 9mm and practice practice practice.
What he said
You really canít compare center fire to rimfire
Buy a SR22 for fun but as in any 22lr in semi auto they always fail just a matter of how often ,no such thing as a reliable one. Even revolvers arenít super reliable due to the ammo.
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Take the money you'd spend on a plinker and buy at least a case of 9mm and practice practice practice.
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I know it's an old thread, but I since got both calibers of LCP II and the .22lr trains you up for both the 380 LCP II AND the Security 9. The three guns are surprisingly similar despite the Security 9 being much larger.

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