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Old February 2nd, 2020, 09:42 AM   #31
 
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I agree with Feralcatkiller and Argee on grips. My SP and my hand did not agree with the stock and Hogue wood grips but get along really well with Pachmayer Renegade grips. On my GP100 other grips fit my hand better. In the past having sunk the money in some Hogue grips on another gun I reshaped the wood to better fit my hand. Also, Hogue and Herrett's will make grips to fit your hand. You send them a hand tracing to do this.



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Old February 2nd, 2020, 03:24 PM   #32
 
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The Speed Six/Service Six/Police Six.
Bill Ruger said he lost money on every one he sold.
They are the best double action revolver that Ruger has built to date.
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The Speed Six/Service Six/Police Six.
Bill Ruger said he lost money on every one he sold.
They are the best double action revolver that Ruger has built to date.
Glad to hear it. I picked up a mint DAO Speedy 3" 38 spl last week. Old Bill would have made a bunch of money on them if he got what they go for now. As much as I love that new Speed Six, my SP101 DAO 2.25" will remain my carry gun because of the comfort and ease of CC AIWB. I really have more appreciation for the SP after buying that awesome Speed Six as odd as that may be.
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All great questions. Both the LCR and SP101 have what I would call a "gutter rear fixed sights". I'm sure there is a better term. I think the other answer is shotgun pattern. The SP just has a lot more variation where the LCR is close to point of aim a tiny bit high and left but close to target.

I'm right handed and I'm not saying that the ammo wouldn't help? I just don't know. But if I take both guns to a range session and use the same ammo out of both, I experience the same as I have described.

My other thoughts are... Is there such a thing as a big variable from one gun to the next (within SP101s)? Maybe I just love the LCR trigger way better than even a great, smooth SP101?
I've got the same problem with accuracy(lack of) with my SP 2.25 DAO despite owning it for over a year and many range trips. My trigger is smooth, light and reliable after some work. I do best with the Hogue monogrip and don't find it hard to conceal AIWB. I like the way it feels and carries but don't shoot it well. I took my "new" 3" Speed Six to the range for the first time yesterday and shot good groups right from the start. Then I tried the SP and it's the same old thing. It's not the fixed sights as I often shoot my M10s and M64 Smiths with fixed sights accurately. I believe it's my trigger pull because there's no consistency to my shots. It's frustrating and I always take another revolver when I shoot the SP so I don't leave with my tail between my legs. I'm not giving up yet.
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Easy solution: Carry the one you shoot best. No matter how many rounds in it.

Save the other for the range. LCR has a fine trigger in .357, but I've not tried the .327 model.

If looks mattered, no one would buy a Glock They are popular for other and better reasons. My Kimber is no beauty queen--I think they look odd--but my accuracy with it, even point-shooting, makes it my go-to. I don't rotate CCW guns, either.
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Here's an interesting story on grips. I didn't care for the original grips that came with my SP101 so I purchased a set of Hogue Monogrips .. I liked the Monogrips but found they were a little skinny and way to big (long) to conceal. So I bought a set of Pachmayr Diamond Pro's and found the perfect fit (for me anyway). I could shoot more accurately with them than any of the other grips I tried on it. With that in mind I decided I'd get a set of Diamond Pro's for my LCR. Put them on the LCR and could't hit with the same accuracy as the Hogue Tamers that came on it. Different frames give different results with the same model grips.

The moral for me is that each different model gun has a specific grip that'll help marry it to your hand. You just have to keep trying them on until you find it.
I read through this thread to see if anyone mentioned the PDPs. After extensive searching, knowing what works well for me on most revolvers, they are the only commercially available grips I have any expectation of actually working well for me on the SP101.

Also, just to note, Herrett's says there is enough variation in Ruger frames that they require you to ship them your gun so they can fit the grips to it. Adds ~$160 freight to the cost, which is why I haven't placed an order yet for my GP.
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I read through this thread to see if anyone mentioned the PDPs. After extensive searching, knowing what works well for me on most revolvers, they are the only commercially available grips I have any expectation of actually working well for me on the SP101.

Also, just to note, Herrett's says there is enough variation in Ruger frames that they require you to ship them your gun so they can fit the grips to it. Adds ~$160 freight to the cost, which is why I haven't placed an order yet for my GP.
Wow!! You could buy a whole lot of grips for that price and do your own experimentation.
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Altamont SP-101 grips!
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I agree with John R. I stopped taking multiple guns to the range because the differences between trigger pull, weights, feel would throw me off when switching back and forth. Take one and stick with it for a couple of months and then switch.
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That's a big problem for me, i take too many different ones and accuracy suffers.
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Wink Grip consistency & Range time

I didn't see OP comments on his satisfaction with the aftermarket grips on his SP101. I'd suggest the he take a serious look at his LCR, and how it fits in his hand, and then consider what he has created for hand platform on the SP101.
My experience is that if the gun shifts in his hand after every shot, regardless of how he sees his sight alignment, his bullet strike will float around on the target.
Imagine a grip set in epoxy, same finger motion, sight alignment and bullet strike point.
Just my $0.02 from an old guy.
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Maybe I missed it but a common suggestion in situations like this is to have someone else shoot your gun and see how they do with it.
Hopefully someone who is as good a shooter and in this case ideally an experienced revolver shooter.
If you can find two such shooters even better.
That will tell you right there whether it is the shooter or the gun.
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Wow!! You could buy a whole lot of grips for that price and do your own experimentation.
Well, I have. I found one that's close. Removed material here, added material there. It's now the right shape, but it's ugly. Was looking to have it duplicated in some nice walnut. Will have to continue with the DIY path, I guess.
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I really liked the stock 101 grips except for the transition under the trigger gaurd. I think it needs to be built up a bit.


Anyway, I would also suggest you take only one hand gun out get comfortable shooting it. Then the other. It will serve you better.

If you switch from gip to grip and trigger ti trigger in the same range session you may be working against your self.

Once you feel proficient with one , then switch. After you are very comfortable with both. Then make a comparison


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