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This is a discussion on GP100 Endshake - To shim or not to shim?? within the Ruger Double Action forums, part of the Pistol & Revolver Forum category; Originally Posted by taters613 It is really quite remarkable. Iíve had nothing but excellent experiences with Ruger customer service, and I certainly cannot say the ...


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Old October 24th, 2019, 03:37 AM   #16
 
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It is really quite remarkable. Iíve had nothing but excellent experiences with Ruger customer service, and I certainly cannot say the same for S&W. Iíve only had one warranty return experience with S&W and, while it wasnít a complete failure, I would say they did the ďbare minimumĒ to address the very serious problem I identified with the revolver in question (failure to carry up), and flatly refused to perform work that they deemed unnecessary based on their limited specifications (badly clocked barrel). All my experiences with Ruger have been exactly the opposite. They really do seem to be head and shoulders above the competition in this respect.
And to clarify: I mean this more as a compliment to Ruger customer service than as a slight to S&Wís.
The stories about Rugerís excellent customer service are legion. Smith and other gun makers would do well to emulate Ruger.



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The stories about Ruger’s excellent customer service are legion. Smith and other gun makers would do well to emulate Ruger.
Hey, I'd settle for the Smith and Wesson of 2 years ago, let alone matching Ruger CS.

2 years ago was when S&W replaced the slide on my M&P pistol, which had cracked. They paid shipping in all directions, didn't cost me anything but time.

I had put maybe 10k rounds through the gun and owned it for at least 5 years. But they replaced it "at no charge," per their lifetime service policy.

Then you have the S&W of 2019, who claimed a broken trigger stud in a 610 was "normal wear and tear," and tried to charge me to fix it.

They also broke it completely before sending it back, then denied having done so.

FWIW, I checked my 10mm Super Redhawk. It has VERY little endshake. Almost none. It's tight! This pleases me.

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FINAL UPDATE (hopefully): Finally got this gun to the range, and it shot great! Put 30 or so rounds of Sig 180 grain FMJ 10mm through it with no problems whatsoever. Accuracy was excellent until I turned into a flinch-o-matic at the end 😉. No problems with extraction; even without the moon clips, the spent cases would basically slide right out when I turned the cylinder vertically.
Also, I put a dozen rounds of cheap 40 s&w through it without any misfires! I’m really excited about this, because many folks have seen light primer strikes shooting 40 in 10mm Ruger revolvers and have been forced to fork out $70 (plus extra for the extraction tool) to get the TK custom moonclips which cause the 40 rounds to headspace correctly. But the primers looked very well struck when they came out of my gun, so maybe I just got lucky 😄. One thing I did notice is that, following my range trip, this gun was MUCH dirtier than my other revolver (colt model 3-5-7), and I wonder if this has to do with the larger B-C gap (about .0065” on the ruger, and about .002” on the Colt). There was a particularly large amount of carbon on the bottom side of the top strap, just above the forcing cone. Is this typical? I’m not a “clean freak” by any means, so I don’t mind much either way.
So: while it may have taken two trips back to the mothership, I am now extremely happy with this gun. Plus I got a bunch of free moonclips, a T-Shirt and some priceless knowledge and education out of the experience, so I can safely say that I will continue to be a devoted Ruger fanboy. Thanks for all the help guys!
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Yeah, I'm a little skeptical that the extra-thick TK Custom .40 S&W moon clips are an absolute necessity. If they weren't ~$8 each, I'd probably get some "just in case." But, here we are.

I'll find out for sure next range trip. Planning to put 100 or so rounds of .40 S&W through my Super Redhawk, using my old S&W 610 moon clips. If they all go off, I'll consider it problem solved.

For more relevant testing, I should also try 100+ .40 S&W's using the Ranch Products Super Redhawk-specific moon clips I just got.

Darn, more shooting required! Such a burden!
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