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This is a discussion on GP100 7 SHOT 357, not completely fixed within the Ruger Double Action forums, part of the Pistol & Revolver Forum category; Originally Posted by fxstchewy Originally Posted by CoffeeShooter14 No fix? i just ordered one from buds gun shop. Is my best bet canceling my ordering ...


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Old February 10th, 2020, 07:22 AM   #106
 
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No fix? i just ordered one from buds gun shop. Is my best bet canceling my ordering at buds gunshop and getting a Smith and wesson 686 7 shot? I prefer ruger for their customer service and warranty but refuse to buy a revolver that wont seat all ammo properly. Heres hope for good news.

I have an early 7 shot 2.5" that chambers and shoots 10-12 different 38/357 loads that i have on hand and i can only remember i think once i loaded up some random cheap stuff that did bind a little, i have other 357's that i can run odd ball junk in, in fact my 7 shot serve's house duty loaded with Speer 135gr 38 GD and it loads and ejects just fine.
Are there some that won't chamber sure, is it all of them..no, i have three other Gp's but the 7 shot is my favorite and a keeper.
I just called rugers customer service and they say they tested 17 brands and only 3 that didnt work were aguilla, magtech and blazer brass and the woman on phone acted like it wasn't a big deal. Yeah I'm leaning on try and cancel orbswap the order for 6 shot gp100 or 7 shot 686



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I just called rugers customer service and they say they tested 17 brands and only 3 that didnt work were aguilla, magtech and blazer brass and the woman on phone acted like it wasn't a big deal. Yeah I'm leaning on try and cancel orbswap the order for 6 shot gp100 or 7 shot 686
i was in same boat as you because i had read the reports of 7 shot binding issues but i decided if i got one and it had the issue i would send it in, so my LGS had the 2.5 and the 4.2 and i thought the 2.5 looked like a fat snub nose that was cool looking so i got it and have been pleased, that being said you can't go wrong with the 6 shooter, i have a 6", 4" from 1987 and a 3" and they are great.
i wish S&W would get rid of the stupid lock, i have some with and some without and like the ones without better.
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I just called rugers customer service and they say they tested 17 brands and only 3 that didnt work were aguilla, magtech and blazer brass and the woman on phone acted like it wasn't a big deal. Yeah I'm leaning on try and cancel orbswap the order for 6 shot gp100 or 7 shot 686
i was in same boat as you because i had read the reports of 7 shot binding issues but i decided if i got one and it had the issue i would send it in, so my LGS had the 2.5 and the 4.2 and i thought the 2.5 looked like a fat snub nose that was cool looking so i got it and have been pleased, that being said you can't go wrong with the 6 shooter, i have a 6", 4" from 1987 and a 3" and they are great.
i wish S&W would get rid of the stupid lock, i have some with and some without and like the ones without better.
Can I use the bad ammo if I leave 7th chamber empty? I want the 7 shot and willing to compromise if I can load 6 outta 7 chambers without binding. Will it still bind if I leave 7th chamber empty?
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i wish S&W would get rid of the stupid lock, i have some with and some without and like the ones without better.
Amen!
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Can I use the bad ammo if I leave 7th chamber empty? I want the 7 shot and willing to compromise if I can load 6 outta 7 chambers without binding. Will it still bind if I leave 7th chamber empty?
I couldn't tell you that because i haven't had it happen to that extent, i guess it would depend at what point they start to bind.
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Can I use the bad ammo if I leave 7th chamber empty? I want the 7 shot and willing to compromise if I can load 6 outta 7 chambers without binding. Will it still bind if I leave 7th chamber empty?
I couldn't tell you that because i haven't had it happen to that extent, i guess it would depend at what point they start to bind.
So the ammo you had that did nind functioned with 7th chamber empty perfectly fine? In your honest opinion am I better paying 90 buck restocking/shipping fee to cancel my order at buds and just count my loss and get a 6 shot or different brand of has to be 7 shot?
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You're wanting to load six? Are u going to run it like a SA so the empty chamber is under the hammer when the cylinder is closed? If ya don't you may fire, fire, click, fire fire....etc. I wouldn't consider that a good time at the range. Good flinch practice I guess.

As far as the $90, what's your time and aggravation worth? I know it stinks but in the long run it's a small price to pay IMHO. GPs ain't cheap. Both mine (6 shots) right after first range trip had to go back to Ruger. Both are great now. If there is not an absolute guarantee the issue is fixed, I'd steer clear. Obviously, others will see it differently.
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You're wanting to load six? Are u going to run it like a SA so the empty chamber is under the hammer when the cylinder is closed? If ya don't you may fire, fire, click, fire fire....etc. I wouldn't consider that a good time at the range. Good flinch practice I guess.

As far as the $90, what's your time and aggravation worth? I know it stinks but in the long run it's a small price to pay IMHO. GPs ain't cheap. Both mine (6 shots) right after first range trip had to go back to Ruger. Both are great now. If there is not an absolute guarantee the issue is fixed, I'd steer clear. Obviously, others will see it differently.
I'd load six and use normally. I'm wanting to know if the rims of problem ammo only touch when loading that 7th round or if it's always gonna be an issue? Also another update called ruger customer service again this morning and asked and they said new models are fixed but was uncertain on whether leaving 7th chamber empty would allow otherwise normal use. And I'd use in DAand SA, not sure what you mean by running it like a SA. I don't think the hammer against a round is dangerous unless cocked which is pointless in a DA revolver. And I would only leave 7th chamber empty for ammo that's having rim overlapping. I'd prefer good ammo and all 7 chambers but want option in emergencies or ammo shortages to still use any ammo.

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I just called rugers customer service and they say they tested 17 brands and only 3 that didnt work were aguilla, magtech and blazer brass and the woman on phone acted like it wasn't a big deal. Yeah I'm leaning on try and cancel orbswap the order for 6 shot gp100 or 7 shot 686
I think she's correct in saying that most brands will work. I have an early 7-shot and have tried several brands of ammo that work fine. The rims are close and maybe just barely touch, but so far I haven't had any overlapping or binding. If someday I buy some ammo that won't fit, I'll use it in one of my other .357 guns. I'm happy with the fit, finish, and accuracy of mine, so I'm reluctant to send it in for some sort of replacement.
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I just called rugers customer service and they say they tested 17 brands and only 3 that didnt work were aguilla, magtech and blazer brass and the woman on phone acted like it wasn't a big deal. Yeah I'm leaning on try and cancel orbswap the order for 6 shot gp100 or 7 shot 686
I think she's correct in saying that most brands will work. I have an early 7-shot and have tried several brands of ammo that work fine. The rims are close and maybe just barely touch, but so far I haven't had any overlapping or binding. If someday I buy some ammo that won't fit, I'll use it in one of my other .357 guns. I'm happy with the fit, finish, and accuracy of mine, so I'm reluctant to send it in for some sort of replacement.
Unfortunately I'm not privileged enough to stock pile guns. This will be only revolver with medical bills and saving for a car. I'm hoping I can either use problematic ammo by simply not loading 7th chamber or worst comes to worse ruger trades me a new 6 shot version for free
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Unfortunately I'm not privileged enough to stock pile guns. This will be only revolver with medical bills and saving for a car. I'm hoping I can either use problematic ammo by simply not loading 7th chamber or worst comes to worse ruger trades me a new 6 shot version for free
Since I've not yet found any ammo that binds, I can't tell you how well loading 6 will work. If all else fails, Ruger will replace it.
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Unfortunately I'm not privileged enough to stock pile guns. This will be only revolver with medical bills and saving for a car. I'm hoping I can either use problematic ammo by simply not loading 7th chamber or worst comes to worse ruger trades me a new 6 shot version for free
Since I've not yet found any ammo that binds, I can't tell you how well loading 6 will work. If all else fails, Ruger will replace it.
if I go through with the ffl transfer and make the sale final I will be sure to report any all information here. I will seek out the problematic ammo and if it doesnt work send to ruger. Hopefully my experiments will give everyone more definite answers if I go through with transfer
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Unfortunately I'm not privileged enough to stock pile guns. This will be only revolver with medical bills and saving for a car. I'm hoping I can either use problematic ammo by simply not loading 7th chamber or worst comes to worse ruger trades me a new 6 shot version for free
Since I've not yet found any ammo that binds, I can't tell you how well loading 6 will work. If all else fails, Ruger will replace it.
if I go through with the ffl transfer and make the sale final I will be sure to report any all information here. I will seek out the problematic ammo and if it doesnt work send to ruger. Hopefully my experiments will give everyone more definite answers if I go through with transfer
I'd like to hear of soemone else trying these experiments though as it would aid my decision to get this as final or deny and get another version.
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Can I use the bad ammo if I leave 7th chamber empty? I want the 7 shot and willing to compromise if I can load 6 outta 7 chambers without binding. Will it still bind if I leave 7th chamber empty?
CoffeeShooter, In my experience, leaving the 7th round out usually eliminated the binding, but the video below shows ammo binding with only 4 rounds loaded (happens just past 5:22). It varies. Whether it binds depends not just on the ammo, but the order in which they are loaded. Sometimes I could load six before it would bind and sometimes (rarely) I could get all seven in. I'm talking about those exact same rounds. That may be because they fit better if smaller rim diameters wind up adjacent to larger rim diameters. Or it might be because the rims aren't perfectly concentric with the case, in which case they may only bind when the case is rotated a certain way. You can see from the video that installing the same rounds in a different order results in slightly different binding.

If you expand the video description under the video on Youtube by clicking on SHOW MORE, there is a list of all the ammo brands that people have reported problems with, but not everyone experiences the problem with the same ammo. I didn't have problems with Blazer Brass .357, but others did. Some people have never had the problem at all, while others just don't see it as anything more than a minor inconvenience.

Good luck. Bottom line is that Ruger will replace the 7-shot with a 6-shot if you ask for it.

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I'm not getting the idea of leaving an empty chamber....and thinking operation would be 'normal' for a DA revolver. Might 'fix' one issue but then you have six shot....so why not just get the six shot. Still going to have a mystery empty chamber as your shooting.

I guess if u can't part with the $90, and I completely understand, try your 7 shot, cross your fingers, and if it no workie have Ruger replace it with a six shot.
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