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Old January 1st, 2009, 04:11 PM   #1
 
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redhawk vs. super redhawk size

Hi, I'm considering buying a 44 mag. either redhawk or the SRH, probably with 7.5" barrel. I know the super redhawk has the extended frame and allows for framed scope mounting. Is there really alot of difference in strength. The frame extention certainly gives more barrel support, it's beefy appearance looks stouter, but in equal barrel lengths, weight difference is minimal. I also know there was a problem with redhawks in the 80's, which was resolved. I don't plan on shooting crazy loads, so other than scope mounting and grip frame is there any difference in cylinder diameter, strength? Thanks!
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Old January 1st, 2009, 05:03 PM   #2
 
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Redhawks came with integral scope mounts in the rib- I've got an '87 model (I believe) in 7.5", blued, with ring mounts. The grip cut into my thumb when I first got it but a pair of Pachmayr Presentations fixed the issue- also made for an apparent liter trigger pull. Kyle
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Old January 1st, 2009, 07:01 PM   #3
 
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Both the RH and the SRH are great guns!!!

I own a .44 in each ..... and I bought the SRH to replace the RH ...... but just never could bear to let go of the RH ..... had a real strong buyer for it ........ just can't part with it.

My RH is a stainless with the integral scope system ....... I prefer mounting the optics more rearward. It's a balance thing.

You ask about strength: They are both built like BANK VAULTS!

For all intents and purposes ...... no practical difference.

Besides being "strong" these revolvers share another attribute: A longer cylinder ..... as far as I know the only other DA revolver that has this is Dan Wesson. The Super Blackhawk does NOT share this advantage.

Why is this useful?

Because you can buy or tailor loads with bullets that have a crimping groove more rearward on the bullet and thus seat these forward and free up some case capacity for more powder ..... done correctly .... you either won't raise pressures ..... OR you will raise them but not to any harm. This is especially evident with the .45 Colt chamberings in the RH .......

And if you own a S&W in .44 ..... these made specifically for Ruger DA's loads will not chamber ..... a practical fail safe method.

If you want a real world example of the difference this makes ..... do a search on Garrett Caridges ........ look for the "Sledge Hammer" load ......

The wooden factory grip on a RH is at best punishment ....... a few shooters like them ..... but not many ...... but there are a plethora of choices ..... mine wears Goodyears ....... Uncle Mikes variety.

The SRH ..... unless you scope it and it causes loss of control ....... comes with a near perfect factory Goodyear ......... mine wears these UNLESS I scope it. I have what I consider to be relatively strong hands ...... I farm and ranch ...... but with a scope on my SRH ...... I have to switch to a pair of finger grooved Goodyears ...... Hogue's (I believe). I have no doubt that the fact that my SRH is a 9.5" barrel ...... yes, a real HOGLEG!! ........ and my RH is a 7.5" ....... gives the gripping of the SRH a set back as to balance when it wears a scope.

Both of my Ruger DA's have been tuned by the same gunsmith ...... both suffer from FTF's and need to have a good go around with Iowegan's IBOK in hand .......!

AND both have very good triggers save for the FTF's ..........

Both have been dry fired and fired TONS since the smith work and I think that just installing a little heavier hammer springs will do wonders on the FTF's .....

(For the moment, I solve the FTF's with exclusive use of Federal primers)

So from my experience ..... when you read that the trigger design on the SRH is better than the RH ...... I shrug my shoulders ...... my two examples are near twins as to triggers .......

This whole trigger business drew me to buying a SRH in the first place ...... the other reason was for submitting it to a barrel chop .... at that time .... I thought a six inch SRH in .44 would be the BEES KNEES!!!

But along the way ...... I fell in love with that loooooong 9.5"er ....... right about the time I installed the One Ragged Hole Peep sight and Ruger gold bead painted black ......

(My dad absolutely HATES handguns .......... LOL! ...... but really digs that SRH with the peep sight installed) ......... LMAO!!!

Another subtle difference is that the RH has a more vertical grip angle .... sort of a cross between the BH and the Bisleys ..... of SA persuasion ......... while the SRH has a grip angle about like the Smith DA's ........

The net result ........ is that my RH feels more like a target gun ....... the SRH has more travel until it hits the web of your hand and this coupled with the sweetest factory grip this side of whatever ..... gives the SRH a bit of a recoil advantage.

For the life of me .... I can not suggest which one you might like the best .....

....... better than just guessing ........ try to fenegle a test drive of both samples!!!

Enjoy the RIDE!

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Old January 1st, 2009, 11:35 PM   #4
 
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About the same size

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Hi, I'm considering buying a 44 mag. either redhawk or the SRH, probably with 7.5" barrel. I know the super redhawk has the extended frame and allows for framed scope mounting. Is there really alot of difference in strength. The frame extention certainly gives more barrel support, it's beefy appearance looks stouter, but in equal barrel lengths, weight difference is minimal. I also know there was a problem with redhawks in the 80's, which was resolved. I don't plan on shooting crazy loads, so other than scope mounting and grip frame is there any difference in cylinder diameter, strength? Thanks!
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Funny thing. My favorite holster for my Redhawk 7.5" 44 Mag is a Bianchi 111 Cyclone (crossdraw convertible to strong side). Lucky find, used at a gun show.

When I bought my Super Redhawk (also 7.5") 44 Mag, I found that the same holster fit the new gun. It was only the least bit tighter, not enough to bother, just barely enough to notice.

You already know about the difference in the grips (RH has frame and SRH has the GP100 post)

The GP100 and SRH also share identical interior lockwork. The RH has a unique "single-spring" lockwork that is unique to the RH among Ruger revolvers.

Short answer: No difference in strength that I know of, but I like to shoot my SRH because the grips are kinder to my hand. Replacing the wooden RH grips would probably be enough to erase the difference on that score.

Since they will fit the same holster, why not buy one of each?

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Old January 2nd, 2009, 05:17 AM   #5
 
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Thumbs down RE: RH vs. SRH

Hey, thanks for all the useful info. I guess it just comes down to personal prefrence, ie. which feels more comfortable,etc. Apparently strength is not an issue. I'll have to admit I tend to be a little obbsesive about the strength when it comes to my guns, which I guess isn't an issue here, afterall, their both Rugers. I'm not much of a hunter, that however could change down the road, but I mainly just like to go to the range, plinking fun.
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Old January 2nd, 2009, 08:21 AM   #6
 
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SRH has a slightly larger cylinder in all external dimensions, according to Linebaugh.
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