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Old October 1st, 2019, 12:25 PM   #1
 
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Hello, just registered and Iím hoping I can find a solution to this problem. I just picked up a 7mm-08 compact for my fife and it will not chamber the shell. The shell will leave the clip at a angle to great to go into the barrel. If you try to force the bolt forward it just crushes the case. I have a video of the problem but canít seem to post the video.
I seem a gun smith yesterday who figures I might need the feed ramp machined so the the shell can enter the barrel. Says heís never seen this problem with that model before.
Any ideas of how I can fix this?


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Old October 1st, 2019, 12:33 PM   #2
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Is the rifle new or used? Almost sounds like a problem with the mag or how the bolt is grabbing the cartridge. I would call Ruger Customer service. Not sure how they deal with issued in Canada but I'm sure they have a procedure.
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Hello and welcome to the forum. Double check that you have the correct ammunition, and the magazine is fully seated. If all that is ok you will need to contact Ruger about the problem. I hope you are shooting the rifle soon. Good luck.
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Iíve contacted Ruger who gave me a company in Quebec to do warranty repairs. Just waiting for them to get back to me.
I did buy the gun used (trades my Vanguard for it) the clip seems good and it doesnít matter what brand ammo. It still sends the shell up at too great an angle. I have read about the clip problems with these guns and filing needed sometimes, but this seems like the complete opposite of the usual clip problems.


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You can still single load it right?
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Hey Mike, just run down to P&D and get one of their OEM mags. I had the same issue with my factory 6.5CM mag but replaced it with a .308 mag for the same rifle and it works dandy.
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Hey Mike, just run down to P&D and get one of their OEM mags. I had the same issue with my factory 6.5CM mag but replaced it with a .308 mag for the same rifle and it works dandy.


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This is with plastic tipped Bergerís

Regular ammo



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I would bet that it's the rotary mag. I have a couple of Ruger American Ranches with the rotary mags and had fixable problems with 3 out of 4 of the Ruger Mags I got. If Ruger does not find anything wrong with the rifle, they will probably replace the mags free if you ask. The mags are fairly sturdy from the factory, but won't take a lot of abuse like metal AR mags will.

If you like fixing things yourself, here's what I did to fix mine. Be warned that this might make Ruger not replace the mag (so you'd be out $30). And unless you get drastic and try gluing them after you take them apart (I don't recommend this), they won't be quite as sturdy if you take them apart. They will definitely be useable, but not as sturdy.

For your misfeed problem. You can test if this is the problem. Load up the mag. With mag outside the gun, manually unload the mag by pushing rounds back to front like the bolt would do. (may have to use eraser end of pencil as there should be some resistance). As you push the round, once you get it started , it should come out of the mag smoothly. There should be no 'catching' except slight resistance when the bullet shoulder gets to the front and the bullet starts angling upward.

This fixed my problems where misfeed/double feed occurred when mag was full or on the 2nd round feed. Use procedure of taking off a tiny amount of material, test the feed (manually push the rounds out: you'll feel a 'catch' if it's not working: or use snap caps with rifle; or test at range with live ammo), repeat if necessary. Gently sand off, with fine flat file or emery cloth, a little of the underside of the feed lips about a quarter-inch from the front of the lips. How far back you might need to sand may depend on the shape of the caliber ammo you are using.

To do the above, you should not have to take the mag apart. Just take some care to clean out as much plastic dust as you can while doing this.

FYI: The other problem I had that does not sound like your problem was that the last round would not feed at all (bolt just glided over the round). For this I had to take the mag apart and wind the rotary-feed tensioner (don't know technical term) an extra amount.

There's a youtube video out there where someone does this. But be aware of the fairly fragile nature of the mag internals.

What is not readily visible in the video is that taking apart the mag is tricky and delicate. There are three small plastic 'pins' hinged on plastic arms inside the mag that keep the rear end of the mag in place (plus some flat guide pieces). Gently push the plastic pins in from the outside with a punch or other flat tool as close to the pin size as possible. Be patient because it's all plastic. Use just enough slow pressure to allow you to wiggle the rear end cap of the mag off. Be careful as the rotary feed mechanism rotates on the rear piece you're prying off: won't spring at you but if it comes off, you won't be able to tell how many turns it had to start with.

When you put the mag end back in you have to be sure the rotary tensioner end is in its slot and tensioned correctly (IIRC it's supposed to be 1.5 turns: hard to explain until you see the setup) and that the 3 flat alignment pieces on the mag front part are aligned with their slots in the rear. Then comes the hard part. You have to get something solid and flat (small punch or screw driver blades) into the mag from the top and push the pins back into their holes by pushing them from the inside to the outside of the mag. Odds are good you won't be able to push them all the way into place, but they will hold enough if most of the way in.

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They are sending me a new clip to try. Hopefully this is the cause.
QA/QC seems like a problem with these guns from what Iíve read. Itís a shooter though


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If I am seeing it right, the same thing was happening to me with my 6.5CM Predator, but only on the 4th cartridge. Like I posted earlier, I just picked up a couple of 308 mags and the problem went away. I have the older version of the Predator with the rotary mag but I picked up the Gen II (?) with the AI style mag for my buddy's son and it seems much better.
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Well I got my new clip and it still wonít feed. And the new clip is super hard to load, the metal bar sometimes will not go down when you enter a shell. It would be a terrible problem if you need to slam some shells in fast.
Anyway looks like Iím going to have to ship the rifle to Quebec. I still think I need to have the feed ramp machined to make the shells enter at a flatter trajectory.
Disappointing first experience with Ruger.


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FWIW my first Ruger was a .300bo AR mag version and has fed without issue to this day with any ammo.
I liked it so much I got a Predator in 6.5g AR mag version and had feed issues, looks like the round is popping up before the bolt can grab the round so it nosedives and slams into the bottom of the barrel face and stops. Running it fast helps but still jams, and always on the last round.
So I fired up the dremel with a grinding stone and a 90 deg. extension and beveled it just a bit so the round is pushed towards the chamber. Yes, that blows the warranty but I’m OK with that. It feeds fine now, with CPD and elander mags.
I wish Ruger had a better feed ramp, That’s a long jump from the ramp to the chamber. Seems some calibers just don’t like it.
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Dead Mike, probably not the issue, but outta curiosity, do your mags have a + sign on them at the top front, i recall a few years ago i read (know now that when if find that stuff i should copy and paste it to save) that the first round of mags had no marking, second had a - sign and the last has a +, don't know if there is any truth to it, but all 3 of my 204 mags have the + sign and they work fine.
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