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Old November 11th, 2019, 04:19 PM   #16
 
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Rascally, I'm glad you didn't shoot yourself in the foot with that 39A.

Maybe my problem with the 39A was that I wasn't being hard enough on the lever. Could well be.

Re recouping some value with the original stock as I upgrade, I've wondered about that and the value of the fiber optic sights, again, I think by Williams. They seem to be as described by the Williams Fire Sights.

I wonder what would be a fair price for each. Planning to do some research on that.
The Fire Sights go for about $28 new on the street. Not a lot, but even $10 would help.




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Old November 12th, 2019, 01:04 PM   #17
 
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Well, I learned (what I think is) some good news today about how to solve my sights problem. I've pretty much decided to go first with a set of Tech Sights (TSR 200), but have been concerned about getting the front post off without cutting through it. The Fire Sights are nice, and someone could get some use with them (if I don't keep them, which is unlikely).

So I called Ruger, Williams and Tech Sights and asked if they'd had experience with that fiber optic front sight -- getting it off. Only Williams offered the answer I wanted to hear -- the others were equivocal. I asked the rep explicitly if Williams puts the same kind of little bump on the underside of the front post base that Ruger (allegedly) puts on its irons to help hold it in place. He knew exactly what I meant, and said, "No, the underside of our base is flat. No bumps. It may have a stamp indicating post height, but that's an indentation. So it should come out easy."

Then the rep at Tech Sights made a stellar suggestion. I noted to her that I was going to have to buy a set of brass punches for this job. "No you don't," she said. "Take a spent .22 casing and insert what ever metal punch you have into it, then use the bottom of the casing as your brass punch." I thought, that's brilliant and will save me at least $10 -- I don't need a brass punch for anything but this job.

So I tried one out, just for fit, with a live cartridge (no punching), and it fits perfectly where it should with a fraction of a mm on either side of it. It should spread the force out larger than a small punch, so should mar it even less.

I don't have a spent casing -- snowing today with freezing rain, so didn't go out a shoot one (all mine from shooting past days are covered with snow now) -- but I'm going to get one later this week and try drifting that front site out a bit. Maybe not all the way, but to see if it will budge.

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Here is a good place to get new 10/22 take off parts. They have the polymer stocks for $25 plus $5 shipping. sapoutfitters.com
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Here is a good place to get new 10/22 take off parts. They have the polymer stocks for $25 plus $5 shipping. sapoutfitters.com
RR is right, they have the exact same stock that was on Ebay, but a whole lot less expensive.

https://sapoutfitters.com/product/ru...tock-charcoal/
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Thanks to you both for that information. I'm glad to have the link -- looks like they could get some business from me in the future, or from others.

But as I mentioned yesterday (? -- time is flying right now), I've decided against buying that stock mainly because: 1) it's a drop comb and I think the Tech Sights will work well with my current and future straight stock; and 2) it's not a Hogue overmold in OD green, which I've had my heart set on (from even before I got the rifle).

I could be wrong. Maybe the Tech Sights are not even tall enough. But I suspect so. Last Saturday during a phone call to them, their rep kindly measured the height of the rear sight from top of receiver to top of aperture ring. Not top of aperture, but top of ring. Without going for the calipers, she used a ruler and estimated 0.92". That should be more than tall enough for me.
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The center of the rear peep aperture of my TSR200RL sight sits right about .75" above the top of the receiver. That is the center of the hole, not the distance to the top of the aperture post.

But I have the rail-mounted version of the TSR200. Tech Sight provides a front sight with a slightly taller front post for the TSR200RL version than they do for the TSR200 that screws directly onto the receiver top. I take that to be an indication that the TSR200RL mounts just a little higher than the TSR200 rear sight. But the difference in front sight post height is not very much, so I don't think there will be a great difference.

I have never heard of anyone complaining that the Tech Sights mounted too low to be easily used.
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It seems to me -- just using a bit of reasoning; no real information known -- that since the Tech Sights are modeled after AR sights, and since the latter are straight stocks, they should be great.
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For reasons I'll explain another time (perhaps; it boils down to $), I'm back to considering getting this stock instead of springing immediately for the Tech Sights.

So I just want to double check, because I can't quite get a proper angle on the pics at the site: this is a drop comb stock, right?

If so, I may spring sooner than later. Just less than $30 shipped. That's a great deal.

Edited to add: Nevermind. I found a pic there. Yes, def drop comb. I put the image down below. I really like that look.

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RR is right, they have the exact same stock that was on Ebay, but a whole lot less expensive.

https://sapoutfitters.com/product/ru...tock-charcoal/

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And! ... the same site sells new current stocks for the Compact, just like mine, for $55. More than I expected. They are currently out of stock.

So I'm guessing I could put my current one up for sale -- maybe in the classifieds of this forum or on eBay -- for, what, $25 plus shipping (? ) -- and mostly pay for the replacement. Hmm.
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I'm glad you found a solution that will work for you. For myself, I'm happy with my stock. With my cheek pressed against the comb my eye lines up perfectly. I guess I have high cheekbones. Hey, maybe I'm part Amerindian? Oh Lizzie...

https://www.ruger.com/products/1022C...ages/31115.jpg

By the way, the drop comb is called "Euro style" while the straight comb is called "American style". Just sayin'...

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Love that stock. The green on the black barrel rocks.

Eventually, once I can afford the Tech Sights at the same time as a new stock, I want to add what I think is the Hogue equivalent.
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By the way, the drop comb is called "Euro style" while the straight comb is called "American style".
Good info. And interesting. Guessing there's some history there ...
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Love that stock. The green on the black barrel rocks. .
I especially like that the Brimstone BX trigger, also in ODG, doesn't scream for attention. Most people never notice...it's a pretty subtle statement.
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... also in ODG, doesn't scream for attention. Most people never notice...it's a pretty subtle statement.
That's one among several reasons -- but not the top -- that I eventually want that Hogue overmolded stock in ODG on mine. (I'd buy that stock even if it didn't come in green. Anything but pink. ) Rifles that are all black -- even if they are .22 LR -- make some uneasy these days. It's that EBR reputation. Green softens the image a bit. Maybe I should put some green grips on my LCRx when I get it.

Where I live now it's less an issue; hunters are thick in this region. But next year, I hope to be spending some time with it in a region that's ... let's say, for now, a little less comfortable with rifles, I suspect, so ...

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My new OEM drop comb stock will arrive Saturday.

I can already see a new sight picture with it.
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