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Old October 1st, 2019, 10:40 PM   #1
 
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Last Ruger Carbine (standard model synthetic stock) with factory swivel studs?

I'll explain the question I posed in my thread title. I am going to purchase (my first) 10/22 soon; yes, I'm late to the game. There are two stores in my region (central Maine) who are Ruger dealers. Both want $270 for a new one.

But one has a "new" 10/22 in the store (standard model with black synthetic stock and iron sights), and a used one (for $219 with picatinny rail, cheap red-dot scope and a sling). When I looked at both, I noticed something odd: both have factory installed swivel studs for a sling. It's clear they are factory installed, not aftermarket. They are recessed into the stock with a 1/2" collar.

Having a "new" one with factory studs seemed odd to me because the new 10/22's of that model (1151: black synthetic stock and iron sights) do not have swivel studs. I even spoke with two reps at Ruger customer service about it, one of whom was a manager. They thought it was probably an older model, but did not know when the last 10/22 was produced with factory installed swivel studs.

I told that to the store owner, and asked him to check the model number. He found the box in the store room, but it had no model number on it. He checked his store log and found that the rifle came into his store in February, 2018, making it a year and a half old. On the price tag, he has a sticker marked "special", but the price is the same as a brand new one.

So, I'm curious about this rifle and it's history. Can anyone tell me when the last 10/22 was produced with that feature? Anything else to know about the model?

I seem to be one of many who wish that Ruger still put the studs on new basic models. They are factory installed on some models -- the Collector's Edition Man's Best Friend has them -- but not on the basic model.

Thanks in advance.



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Welcome to the forum, katahdin.
There is a forum specifically for 10-22s down in the rifle and shotgun section, perhaps you'd get more responses there.
This is the pistol and revolver section. Maybe one of the mods will move the thread there for you.
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Katahdin-1022, I moved your thread to a more appropriate forum.

Ruger does a lot of things with 10/22s, often making guns to distributor specifications . different stocks, sights, barrels, and of course accessories like scope bases, barrel bands, butt plates, and sling swivels. If you are concerned about the age of a gun, research the serial number . stocks with or without sling studs won't tell you much. If you look at Ruger's web site, you will see some current models are shipped with sling swivel studs. Here's a link: https://ruger.com/products/1022Carbine/models.html

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I bought a Ruger 10/22 carbine model with black synthetic stock that has sling swivel studs molded into the butt stock and the tip of the fore-end at Dick's just a couple of years ago. Looks just like this one:

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Thanks for moving my thread!

I swear, I thought I posted it in the 10/22 section. Honest. I searched and found it, but ... then black magic happened and I wound up in handguns? What was I drinking.

OK, now we're getting somewhere. Thanks much for responses. Dinner time for me, more later ....
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Pblanc, the studs on your 10/22 -- especially the one on the stock -- look very much like the one in the store here. It's got that ring or margin around it. I can't remember what the fore end stud looks like, but will check again and take some pics next time I'm over there (just downtown). Makes sense you got it a couple of years ago since the one here has been in the store for 1.5 years according to his books.

Iowegan, thanks for the tip re serial numbers. I'll check it out, for sure. It'll be fun to know a bit of its history.

But it's not the age of the gun that I'm curious about as much as ... how did the dealer get it? Pblanc's is from Dick's, so that may be in fact distributor specific.

When I go to Ruger's site -- where I've spent a lot of time in the last week or so trying to discern models, especially which have the studs -- I see a number of (half dozen?) of those distributor specific models.

So my last question for tonight -- before heading over to Netflix for entertainment before bed -- is, could this dealer get a distributor specific rifle for his store, from Dick's or anywhere else? It doesn't matter to me one way or the other. I'm not claiming wrong doing. I'm just trying to understand where that one came from. It's more curiosity than anything.

I suspect I'm going to put the rifle there on layaway Friday. 20% down, 60 days to pay it off. It's got swivel studs that I want, and it'll save me from having to install aftermarket ones until I can upgrade the stock (likely Hogue overmolded which also has studs), because I can't easily carry it on my walks in the woods without my sling.
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I may have been in error about buying the synthetic stock Ruger 10/22 at Dicks. I have two Ruger 10/22 carbines. One is the model 1103 with wooden stock, and that may have been the one I purchased at Dicks now that I think on it.

The other carbine I purchased on-line and I can't recall the vendor. Probably Kentucky Gun Company. But I do not believe that the carbine with the black synthetic stock was a distributor specific rifle. I took a look at the two boxes the carbines came in. One says model 1103, the wood stock model. The other box says model 1151.

I shoot at Project Appleseed events where a lot of people shoot Ruger 10/22s. A lot of people have synthetic stocks with molded-in sling swivel studs. I thought this was now the norm for the synthtetic stock model 1151 carbines, but I could be wrong. I know the picture of the model 1151 on the Ruger site does not show sling swivel studs, but it might not have been updated.

I have seen threads over on rimfire central where posters ask "When did Ruger start putting sling swivel studs on synthetic stock 10/22s?" so I thought that was a relatively recent development.

The front sling swivel stud on the model 1151 has to be molded right at the tip of the fore-end. Otherwise you would not be able to get the barrel band off to take the rifle down. To remove the barrel band requires removing the front sling swivel from the stud.
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Pblanc, thanks a ton for your update. Appreciated. Re the studs on the current 1151, I actually called Ruger to clarify whether it has sling studs or not. The rep said no, it does not. An error about that on her part is possible, but I think unlikely. When you call their customer service number, about three selections in on the menu, you reach an option for "10/22" (#1, interestingly enough.) So, 1) I'm guessing the rep was a 10/22 specialist, and 2), she didn't hesitate a second to respond. She seemed to know her stuff. She offered some other relevant information, also. (I've always found Ruger's CS to be second to none, which is one among several major factors that keeps me coming back.)

She didn't know when the 1151 changed to no-stud status, but she suggested having her manager call me. He did the following day. Very cordial guy, and he confirmed, no studs currently, but also didn't know when they dropped out.

This continues to be a moderate curiosity for me -- I'm always curious about decisions by the corporate minds (in part because I'm trying to create a new company and want to do it right) -- but it no longer relates to my purchase of a 10/22. I've now -- as of about 6 am this morning, after thinking about it off and on all night -- decided to pass on the "new" 1.5 year old rifle at my local shop and have them get me a brand, spanking new one from the factory. I mean, it's right next door in New Hampshire, so it should be easy. Or from their distributor. Whatever.

Why? I've figured out a new way to fund this purchase. Until I get a company started next year (such is my goal) and see some cash flow, I'm on fixed income. So this rifle is not in my budget. But I've decided to sell a piece of electronic equipment that I'm not using right now on eBay, and it should fetch $400 - $500 according to current pricing and recent sales, which is enough for a new 1151, a Hogue overmolded stock (I think I want olive green), and a set of XS ghost rings. (I'm open to suggestions about both. But we'll discuss those in another thread about this project that I'll start soon -- so please save opinions for now -- I'll post the link to the new thread here).

I've already got the sling: Quake Claw from a former rifle. Love it.
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