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Old September 21st, 2019, 08:53 AM   #1
 
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New 10/22 trigger won't reset

This post is probably a bit more of a rant than a request for advice since this will be Ruger's problem to deal with. But I am curious if anyone else has experienced this and if anyone can make an educated guess as to the cause.

Two days ago I bought a new Ruger 10/22 carbine at a Bass Pro shop. This was the "no sights" version with an 18 1/2" taper barrel and a synthetic stock. Bass Pro installs disposable trigger locks on all their firearms and tapes a "key" inside the box. The box is then very securely taped shut for the customer to leave the store. I was told that I could not remove the trigger lock in the store prior to purchase due to "company policy".

I didn't worry too much about that since I am quite familiar with how ruger 10/22 triggers work. Yesterday, I took the gun down for a quick inspection and cleaning. I removed the trigger lock and did a quick function check dropping and reinstalling the magazine, cycling the charging handle, checking that the safety worked, then disengaging the safety and dry firing one time. I then recocked the hammer by cycling the bolt, put the safety back on, and took the barreled action out of the stock.

I removed the trigger assembly from the receiver to remove the bolt and clean the chamber and barrel. I set the trigger assembly and its pins aside, cleaned the barrel, reinstalled the recoil spring/charging handle and the bolt, then swapped the steel bolt stop pin for a synthetic bolt buffer. I reinstalled the trigger assembly (hammer cocked, safety on) into the receiver, and the barreled action into the stock. So far, everything seemed good.

I then went to function check the rifle again and only then noted that the trigger had not reset. I fiddled with it but could not get it to reset. I took the rifle back down and pulled the trigger assembly out to inspect it more closely. Everything looked right so far as I could tell without disassembling the entire trigger assembly. I found that it I pressed the cocked hammer back a bit, and manually pushed the trigger forward, there was an audible click and the trigger would reset. I could then drop the hammer with the trigger. I went through this cycle a dozen times more, with the same result. No trigger reset until I pushed the trigger back forward.

I assume that the audible click is the disconnector releasing the sear. I do not feel or see any evidence that the trigger return spring and plunger is binding.

Unfortunately, my discovery came only after Ruger customer support had closed for the weekend, so I will be giving them a call on Monday AM. I hope they will allow me to send only the trigger assembly group back rather than having to ship the entire rifle back. This experience is a bit frustrating because had I been allowed to function check the trigger assembly on the rifle before I paid for it, I might have detected this problem (or not).

Has anyone encountered a problem like this with an unfired trigger assembly?




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Old September 21st, 2019, 09:37 AM   #2
 
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Just taking a "shot" here, but when I installed the replacement "BX-Trigger" assembly in my 10-22, to get a better trigger action, the included instructions had a rather severe caution about installation technique, to prevent subsequent malfunction. I don't have those instructions anymore, but Ruger does have an installation video. I would guess that installation of even the original trigger group would require the same care as the replacement. Hope this helps.

"http://shopruger.com/Ruger-BX-Trigger/productinfo/90462/"
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If the trigger will reset if you push the trigger forward the first thing I would check would be the trigger return spring and plunger behind the trigger. If the spring or plunger was binding that could keep the trigger from resetting.

You should not have to trouble shoot a brand new gun but sometimes it is something easy to fix and saves the hassle of sending the gun back to Ruger or if you don't want to try to fix it send it back to Ruger. You will probably have to end up sending the entire gun back.

Good luck with it.
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If the trigger will reset if you push the trigger forward the first thing I would check would be the trigger return spring and plunger behind the trigger. If the spring or plunger was binding that could keep the trigger from resetting.

You should not have to trouble shoot a brand new gun but sometimes it is something easy to fix and saves the hassle of sending the gun back to Ruger or if you don't want to try to fix it send it back to Ruger. You will probably have to end up sending the entire gun back.

Good luck with it.
I would certainly prefer not to have to send it back. So far as I can tell, if I hold the cocked trigger back as far as it will go and work the trigger, the return spring and plunger seem to be moving smoothly.

To reset the trigger manually requires a fair bit of force to get the "sear click", more force I think than could ever be provided by that little trigger return spring.

I have disassembled and reassembled 10/22 trigger groups before so I am not afraid to do it, but it can be a pain, especially getting the sear, disconnector and disconnector spring back in the trigger, and then the trigger back in the housing. I think complete disassembly would be the only way I could fully check the trigger return spring and plunger.

I am a bit reluctant to mess with what appears to me to be a defective new trigger assembly for fear that Ruger will not correct the problem if I have done any "gunsmithing" on it. My gut feeling is that the sear is binding on the disconnector.
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I just saw your post. I recently bought a new Charger and though the trigger was better than what my old 10/22's came with, I wanted better. The gun hinted at great accuracy potential and I felt the trigger was a limiting factor. Before sending the trigger unit off for work I heard about MCARBO's trigger polishing video and their reduced power trigger spring. The video made me confident that I could get the trigger apart and then back together. Their spring "kit" is just the spring and a tiny wooden dowel that acts as a slave pin during reassembly. It makes that tricky step easy. I actually bought the Wolff spring and made my own pin from a toothpick using side cutters. I'll bet you have a burr or rough spot that you could fix easily. Watch the video at the MCARBO website (fast forward through the long polishing session) and see what I mean. I was actually getting some failures of the disconnector to reset after installing the light spring. I would have to nudge the trigger forward until it clicked. Some Rem Oil and firing about 150 rounds cured the issue. Now I have a smooth running, accurate gun. Good luck with whatever you decide to do.
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I just saw your post. I recently bought a new Charger and though the trigger was better than what my old 10/22's came with, I wanted better. The gun hinted at great accuracy potential and I felt the trigger was a limiting factor. Before sending the trigger unit off for work I heard about MCARBO's trigger polishing video and their reduced power trigger spring. The video made me confident that I could get the trigger apart and then back together. Their spring "kit" is just the spring and a tiny wooden dowel that acts as a slave pin during reassembly. It makes that tricky step easy. I actually bought the Wolff spring and made my own pin from a toothpick using side cutters. I'll bet you have a burr or rough spot that you could fix easily. Watch the video at the MCARBO website (fast forward through the long polishing session) and see what I mean. I was actually getting some failures of the disconnector to reset after installing the light spring. I would have to nudge the trigger forward until it clicked. Some Rem Oil and firing about 150 rounds cured the issue. Now I have a smooth running, accurate gun. Good luck with whatever you decide to do.
Thanks for your help. The MCARBO disassembly/reassembly video is better than the others I have watched.

I have decided to go a different route and I have ordered the KIDD DIY trigger kit for the 10/22. I was probably going to send this trigger assembly in to Brimstone Gunsmithing for their Tier 2 trigger job which I have on another rifle. But currently Brimstone is restructuring the company and has a back log of trigger work so their turn-around time is running multiple weeks.

The KIDD kit is a little more than the Tier 2 trigger work but should allow me to get the rifle functioning sooner than having Brimstone rework the trigger, or sending the rifle back to Ruger.

The KIDD DIY kit includes a new trigger, sear, sear spring, disconnector, and hammer, so whatever the problem is with this trigger group, it should be solved with the KIDD replacement parts. That kit should be here tomorrow so when it arrives I will be disassembling the trigger assembly and hopefully will be able to diagnose the problem.
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It's possible the safety button has rotated. It happened to me once. There's a YouTube video that shows the situation and how to fix it.
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