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Old May 30th, 2019, 06:54 PM   #31
 
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I bought a 10/22 lite target for my grandson we started shooting steel and I wanted him to have a good rim fire. Everybody was saying how good the 10/22's are but I must have bought the one that was made on Monday, right out of the box started jamming tried different ammo still jammed sent it back to Ruger they said it was the ruger mags. They said it was fixed and send it back well started jamming again sent it back they polished the mags said it was fixed and sent it back said to use high velocity ammo so I bought CCI stingers 7.99 for 50rds 1640 fps thought it was fixed we went to the completion and guest what had 5 jams. Will they refund my money and I'll buy something else?
Sorry to hear that, mine is a tack driver and reliable as you could ever expect.



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Well... I own 4-10/22 of different configurations. First, standard velocity ammo usually will give you some grief in a new semi-auto. Any new semi-auto. Second, Stinger cases are longer than regular 22lr ammo brass. In a new chamber you are going to have sticking problems. Mini-Mags, or other HV 22lr ammo is a must to break in a new semi-auto. Any semi-auto. Finally 22 semi-auto rifles are notoriously picky about which ammo they like to shoot. Any 22 semi-auto rifle. Two of my 10/22s will shoot CCI standard velocity ammo just fine and two won't. None of my 10/22s will shoot the sticky greasy match ammo.

I also have about 8 different mags and all work fine. Mag malfunctions in Ruger's seem to be rare. If you want to shoot lower velocity ammo there are a ton of aftermarket springs you can buy to make the 10/22 work with standard or match ammo.

Now all that being said in my Ruger American 22lr standard velocity and match ammo definitely shoot more accurately. But of course that's a bolt action.
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I bought two10/22s for my grandkids. They both had ftf, stove piping, etc., out of the box. My fault though since I was in a hurry to get to the range with the girls and didnít clean the rifles. After a take down and cleaning I have never had a problem again. I use CCI mini mags but do mix other stuff in on occasion. No failures!
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CCI Blazzer, CCI TAC, CCI stingers
I've had FTF issues as well but they've all been due to dirty mags. If I had a pick it would show a large dent in the case where the bolt slammed into the round because the gunked up mag was "holding" the round just enough to not completely feed.

The nose getting jammed into top of the chamber with no sign of a dent in the brass makes me think the bolt is picking up the back of the round...as it should.

Now, to me, it's an angle issue. Maybe try a brand new mag OR could the mag be seating too high into the rifle...just a little bit? Mag issue, easy fix, seating too high issue, rifle problem.

Hopefully Ruger gives you some satisfaction. I feel for ya, especially since it's for your grandson.
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Stingers will not feed reliably - read your owner's manual. Use Mini-Mags.....
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Considering there are well over a MILLION of them out there in this great big world, they must be doing something right. Hang in there, they will take care of you.
Ruger 2004 catalog says 4 million 10/22's sold. That was the year of the 40 the anniversary edition. With the passing of 50th anniversary 5 years ago, they may have made 5 million by now.

Very sorry to hear about giving up. I got really discouraged about a Mark III misfiring years ago. Eventually a new firing pin did the trick.
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10/22s will not fire Stingers reliably. Read your Owners Manual. Shoot MINI-MAGS...........
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Interesting how there's this finger pointing at Ruger yet when you use ammo they say not to use (it's in the manual) and there's an issue, it's still their fault...

Anyways...rather than keep going with the knee-jerk "send it in" why not try and diagnose the issue. It's a very simple design. Learn how it all functions together and the problem presents itself.
20 or so of these here and each has had it's peculiarities. Tinker with this or that and they can indeed become VERY reliable and great shooting rimfires.
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I would like to see the gun. Barrel in receiver fit might be a problem. ..and other things. though it sounds like mages but not every mag in the world is bad.
I only have one 10-.22 and it was made sometime in the nineties. A Walmart laminated tock stainless manlicher stock. Didn't shoot it until this past fall.
I shoot everything in it including stingers and Aquilla 1750fps advertised velocity cartridges.
Only problem I see is the smack of the bolt against the recoil pin is too much. i will cure that with stronger spring and poly pin.
A weak recoil spring? You alluded to Magazines as in more than one or two. If it is doing it with more than one or two mags then it is the rifle.
Examine where the magazine seats. Is the lower receive loose when cocked/ hammer is back? My 10-.22 magnum was real sloppy fit had to use .002 oversize pins. But gun never did act up. Not having experience with smithing one of these I can't say. Stacking of tolerances perhaps? Bolt clearance in receiver too loose? Bolt face where it picks up the cartridge overriding it is what is happening. face of bolt where it hits the back of the cartridge to load it, rounded off or broken or something? I say the gun not the mag, when you've tried more than one mag.
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Readers, does Ruger put a tighter chamber (i.e.,Match. Bentz or other) on their Target models? Although they don't advertise such, this could be part of the problem.
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I bought a 10/22 lite target for my grandson we started shooting steel and I wanted him to have a good rim fire. Everybody was saying how good the 10/22's are but I must have bought the one that was made on Monday, right out of the box started jamming tried different ammo still jammed sent it back to Ruger they said it was the ruger mags. They said it was fixed and send it back well started jamming again sent it back they polished the mags said it was fixed and sent it back said to use high velocity ammo so I bought CCI stingers 7.99 for 50rds 1640 fps thought it was fixed we went to the completion and guest what had 5 jams. Will they refund my money and I'll buy something else?
I read all the posts and hope I didn't miss something but has Ruger sent you some brand new mags, not your old ones polished, to try. It seems there may have been a bad run of mag... feed lip problems I believe. So instead of sending in your gun maybe they could just send you new mags or go to a local store you trust and ask an older clerk if they can sell you one onf the newest mags they have recently received from Ruger.
I've been buying and selling and shooting Ruger 10-22's for maybe 39 years and have never had one that was bad from the factory, but I have had lots of bad 10-22 mags. In the old days there were instructions included on how to dissemble the magazines for cleaning and how to make the spring tension a little harder. I don't know if that is possible anymore but I mark all my mags and as soon as one starts to malfunction in a clean, lubed gun I try to clean it one time from the outside and wipe everything away. If that doesn't work I throw it away and replace it with a new one. I shoot a lot.
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RP, it seems there is an admonition somewhere in the manual for the "Target" models that you should use ammo which has a certain thickness in the rim and not to use certain ammo because the rim is either too thick or too thin. You might read the manual for that detail? Maybe something like a headspace issue? I am not sure as I don't have a "Target" model.

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We bought the cheapest 10/22 available, $218.00 OTD. Replaced the extractor and it shoots, (to this point), any brand of ammo I put in it.

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Buy a brand new mag and try it. If it works send the old ones back and demand a replacement.
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I have two 10/22's. First one bought back early 90's. Worked fine with 10 rd factory mags and four 25 rd Butler Creek mags. 2nd one bought around 2010 or so, also worked fine with 10 rd factory, 25 rd Butlers, and some newer Ruger 25 rounders. Older 10/22 also worked fine with newer Ruger 25 rd mags. Have shot about all US made 22 LR ammo through each, only problem I ever had is with some older Remington Mohawk 22's. Both rifles feed, fire, and eject well. Only problem and they let me know it, is when after firing X number of rounds when the action gets dirty from firing (and most 22 ammo will) and there is some feeding problems. A cleaning will cure it and they go on until things get mucked up again. I don't do a complete breakdown cleaning every time I go out and shoot unless it is a session where I run through a lot of rounds. I've never done any extensive work on either except a little stoning here and there. Fine rifles for the price. I shoot mainly Federal, Winchester, and Remington ammo with some CCI tossed in the fray. I've never had problems with the Ruger 25 round mags either as some have posted in the past. My grandsons love them.
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