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#1 ·
Why doesn't Ruger offer a 17hm2 in the 10/22 platform? I have a 10/22 (reciever only) built into a 17hm2 and it is the best short range (150 yards) varmit rifle that I have ever shot. If Ruger would offer a factory production rifle maybe ammo would be more available. What do you all think?
 
#2 ·
I have a buddy that fiddled with the hm2 quite a bit in the 10/22 platform. He had to tweak it to get it tuned and reliable. He spent a lot to make it group, i.e. Spent more on the trigger than a whole 10/22 costs. It doesn't kill as well as a HMR, hit as hard as a 22 mag, it is more accurate than a 22lr, but the ammo is expensive comparatively and scarce. I don't think 17hm2 is going to be around and as common as the other rimfire chamberings. Kimber and a few others chambered pistols in that caliber as well. They sat on shelves a long time around here.
 
#3 ·
Issues with ammo initially brought it to a halt. Poor case formation, inconsistancy and the power curve added to the issues.
The cartridge itself didn't fill any niche. More novelty than anything. Very small market.
Made my own and other than initial ammo issues, it's been a great shooter.
 
#4 ·
I do know some squirrel hunters that swear by the 17 HM2. They love it because it's relatively quiet and very accurate. I also know some people who like it as a pest control round for smaller varmints and for the same reasons. They like the 17 HM2 for it's accuracy, but they don't want or need the power of the 17 HMR.

We have two 17 HM2s. One is a Marlin 917VS, which my husband likes to shoot. The other is my gun, a TC G2 Contender pistol with a 17 HM2 barrel. The little 17 is a sweet shooting and accurate round in either gun.

I agree that the HM2 is never going to be a big player in the rimfire world, but I do think that some of us are finding a use for it. Be a shame if it disappeared, entirely.
 
#5 ·
My rifle was built 5 years ago with a Lilja 21" stainless bull barrel,then threaded it and I installed a suppressor. Trigger was redone, Hogue overmold stock and a BSA sweet 17 scope. I have fired over 2000 rounds threw with only one problem, when it gets dirty it starts to fail to eject (about 250 rounds of Eley ammo). I use only factory 10 round mags. Ammo is half the price of the HMR around here, will hit out to 150 yards easy and will put down a gopher, and will make dime size groups at 100 yards. If I want to shoot farther out I grab my .223.
 
#6 ·
Yeah, not saying it is without merrit, just that I think it's going to be a lot like the 22 short or maybe more like the 22 long was when we were kids. It existed, you could order it, people had guns chambered in it, but not a lot of demand for new rifles or pistols chambered exclusively in those cartridges.

I don't think Ruger would make money selling a 10/17hm2 in this market.
 
#8 ·
The issues with the 10/22M were with extraction. In talking with some folks within the industry part of how the 17HMR came about was Ruger having a LOT (as in thousands) of 10/22M bolts and asking this particular person to help design a cartridge to make them useable. There were prototypes built and I know where at least a couple factory marked bbl reside. Actually passed up purchasing one. maybe next time I see him. :)
 
#12 ·
The problem with 22M in a semi is that it doesn't generate enough recoil for it's length.

To put it another way; 22 rimfire semi-auto guns are all recoil operated and use their recoil to pull the case out of the chamber. Well the case length of the 22M is so long and it sticks in the chamberso well (like any other case does) that the available recoil isn't consistent enough to pull it out. Thus the jam-o-matic.

.17 anything? my LGS had .17 on the shelf just about all the time while .22 was,,, well you know the story about .22. I guess the .17 couldn't overcome the 100year legacy of .22.
 
#18 ·
The .17HM2 is an interesting round that has valid uses, but sadly it isn't well supported and I believe it will fade away into history.
The same fade away can't be said to hold true for the .17HMR. This is heavily supported and for good reason. Hard hitting, very accurate, and the ammo is plentiful.
I own a rifle chambered for it and love it.
 
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