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Hombre Paul Newman Winchester 1873 .32-20 WCF

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Back in 1969 when Hombre came out my mother took us to see it in Reno. I was shocked, enamored, and impressed.

Paul Newman fights racial and moral conflict at the same time.

I suggested, in 1984 to the Homiletics Professor the film Hombre with Paul Newman, Fred Marsh, Martin Balsam, Diane Cilentro, Richard Boone, and others.
My Homiletics Professor was Charles Bartow PH.D at San Francisco Theological Seminary. He had just shown us Twelve O' Clock High to show us a theme to always remember in Homilies: The EXHAUSTION of a morally conflicted man choosing the right path at the expense of HIMSELF.

Charles (in Seminary at SFTS in those days we all called each other by first name. Even the professors. The professors INSISTED. Charles said to me it is a better film and why did he not think about it.

I ended up with the gun in the film a few months ago after getting a revolver to pair with it.

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1873 Winchester Circa 1890 on top in .32-20 WCF

He's on top there, the 73 Winchester. He's in .32-20 WCF. He is the rifle the movie Hombre was filmed with. Octagon barrel included.

I like the .32-20 mostly because it reminds me of the old west and the ranch I grew up on: Franktown JL Ranch. It's in Washoe Valley. It's a landmark now. I was there in that ranch from 1969 to 1976. My mother died there with Lymphoma. We watched the film together remembering the first time we saw it in 1969.

She died 15 FEB 1998.

The legend of the .32-20 lives on with me in the rifle and of course the appropriate pistol to go with it. I wanted the rifle first but it ended up being so difficult to find. Only because it's historic and real. It reminds me of times ago I can't relive.
 
#3 ·
Nice pics
Nice firearms
Great story :)
 
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Okay so I am guilty of getting it. It cost a lot. I can't deal with people who assign prices. Those people are businessmen. I never was a businessman.

I worked all of my life to save human lives. I majored and graduated pre Med and went into Seminary instead to minister.

Money is material.

Winchesters are forever.
 
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The Hombre Winchester

Curious why you think the Winchester you own was the one used by Paul Newman in "Hombre?" I own it. It was purchased from 20th Century Fox on Auction in the late 1980s by Peter Sherayko who played Texas Jack Vermillion in the 1993 Western, Tombstone. I bought it from him last year after a few years of displaying it at major guns shows.

It does NOT have a hexagonal barrel and the caliber is .44-40 (Winchester Center Fire or WCF








) NOT .32-20. The rifle has been heavily modified, has damage, and is missing parts. I have confirmed that it was exactly in this condition when used in the film.

The bottom the receiver is stamped "20TH FOX" and "5 IN 1" has been scratched on top of the receiver to signify it accepts the 5 in 1 blank cartridge popular in earlier Hollywood Westerns.
 
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The Hombre Winchester Curious why you think the Winchester you own was the one used by Paul Newman in "Hombre?" I own it. It was purchased from 20th Century Fox on Auction in the late 1980s by Peter Sherayko who played Texas Jack Vermillion in the 1993 Western, Tombstone. I bought it from him last year after a few years of displaying it at major guns shows. It does NOT have a hexagonal barrel and the caliber is .44-40 (Winchester Center Fire or WCF View attachment 119801 View attachment 119803 View attachment 119805 View attachment 119807 View attachment 119809 ) NOT .32-20. The rifle has been heavily modified, has damage, and is missing parts. I have confirmed that it was exactly in this condition when used in the film. The bottom the receiver is stamped "20TH FOX" and "5 IN 1" has been scratched on top of the receiver to signify it accepts the 5 in 1 blank cartridge popular in earlier Hollywood Westerns.
Would you ever consider providing this gun to a museum of other historical venue, for the purpose of immortalizing it, and the movie, and the great man played hombre?
 
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Brings back good memories. Nice pics as well.
 
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I suspect the OP means he got the same type of rifle as used in the film.

I saw Chuck Conner's Winchester earlier this month, along with a box of those blanks. Ernie, our club prez, was displaying it for the NRA museum at a local gun show. I told him it sure looked like it had been rode hard. He said, yes, and that old Chuck probably dropped it a time or two.

Hope you enjoy that 32-20 duo.
 
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Man! that is one of my favorite movies!! The Character John Russell was one cool Hombre.

See the firearms used during the movie here. Hombre - Internet Movie Firearms Database - Guns in Movies, TV and Video Games

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I believe Mr. Newman was portraying a mindset, that of a man who has lived among the people that basically been promised, and like to add poison and attacked, until there was no hope of a future like their past man is very belief in mankind that large has been totally stripped from him until he won’t even say more than is necessary to communicate