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Old February 3rd, 2020, 11:07 AM   #1
 
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reduced load .44 mag

New to reloading I have a redhawk 7.5 barrel what would be a good reduced load for just plinking and target shooting?Something I can get bullets local..thanks



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Old February 3rd, 2020, 11:38 AM   #2
 
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Since I don't have a clue as to what/where your local bullet supply is...lets start with cast lead bullets . For plinking, tin cans and targets I like the LEE 429-214-SWC over 8.0 grains Unique powder .
If that seems to be be too much cut the charge back to 7.5 grains of Unique , this load is also a good accurate one .
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New to reloading?
You need at least several current reloading manuals.
For example...Speer, Lyman, Hornady for load data.
And read the opening sections.
Or online load data from bullet and/or powder manufacturer sites.

Beware of anonymous internet load data.
Some is okay, others can get you in trouble you do not need.
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Another option to consider is 44 Special. Definitely read and ask questions as well.
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In a .44 Magnum case, 8.5g of Unique (or Universal, or 20/28) under 240g SWC make for a good load. This duplicates the .44 Special Skeeter load. I've also loaded 7.0g-8.0g of Unique as well for even lighter loads under same bullet. That's one of the great things about reloading, is you can load from light to hot all in the same cartridge. As said above, make sure you pick up plenty of reading material. Never have to much. Always, try to have at least two sources of load information so you can make a good judgement call.

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You didnt pick a bullet weight Most common is 240. As earlier stated about 8 gr of Unique. Or start at the top of 44 special for any bullet weight.
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I’ll second 8.5 of Unique under a 240 SWC, it’s manageable
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For a really reduced plinking load to shoot in your .44 Mag, I'd recommend using .44 Spl cases and 200 gr cast bullets with a powder such as W231/HP-38. AA #2, or Alliant Unique.

I have been experimenting with greatly reduced .44 Mag jacketed bullet loads (240 gr JHP) in my Marlin 1894. My goal is to keep MVs around or below 1100 fps. It can be difficult to obtain consistant velocities with small charges of fast burning powder in such a large case. Poly fiber fillers between the bullet and powder have been working for my loads.
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When I started, I only had a Lyman's manual. Some of the generic loads worked well enough for .38 special plated or coated bullets, but magnums scared me.

Now I have more books, to match the bullets I can buy. I'd start with a proven load for a proven bullet before you branch out into approximations for bullets you don't know well. I don't load for .44, but with .357 you can still get into trouble fast. I'd been happy with Hornady's offerings for .357 Magnum, so I bought their loading book for their XTP hollowpoints. Ended up with a bullet I can use in a .357 or a .38 +p round.

As others have said, the .44 special is a forgiving round and, like my .38s, there are many options from mild to nearly wild (that's how Elmer Keith ventured into Magnum territory in the first place).

I'll have a .44 SA one day, myself, and maybe a lever gun to match. So let's hear about how it works out for you. So enjoy, be safe, and send us photos.
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OP, I assume you want reduced recoil?

Energy = 0.5 * Mass * Velocity * Velocity

Changes to Velocity (squared) reduces recoil faster reducing bullet weight.
Reducing the velocity is done by reducing the pressure.
Lower pressures require soft cast lead, i.e. lower Brinell Hardness Number

44 Special, IMR Red, 2.81 lb Ruger Vaquero

; Recoil foot-pounds with Mass changes at maximum pressure
6.29 lbs = 240 grains, FPS=886, CUP=13,800, BHN=7.5
5.73 lbs = 200 grains, FPS=993, CUP=13,800, BHN=7.5
4.93 lbs = 165 grains, FPS=1093, CUP=13,800, BHN=7.5

; Recoil foot-pounds with Velocity changes at minimum pressure
5.28 lbs = 240 grains, FPS=815, CUP=10,500, BHN=5.7
4.18 lbs = 200 grains, FPS=855, CUP=9,300, BHN=5.1
2.62 lbs = 165 grains, FPS=809, CUP=6,400 BHN=3.5

Cowboy shooters use low pressure, low velocity loads.
The side effects are blow-by from insufficient chamber sealing, and leading when too-hard lead is used.

Many cowboys use Trail Boss powder for low pressure loads because TB is fluffy and fills more of the cartridge.
44 Magnum cartridges are less desirable for light loads, because of more empty space in the larger cartridge.
The same holds true for 357 Magnum vs 38 Special cartridges.

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Thanks for all the help I have a bunch of books and doing a lot of reading.I shot some 44 special but that really made a mess in the cyl.
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Again, 44 mag case, a quick/moderate burning powder start at the top of 44 Special load level. I use 8 to 8.5 of Unique or actual beginning load of Cfe Pistol for 44 mag. Those loads w a 240 gr pill will be 900 to 1100 fos.

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Has anybody seen an Alliant guide that publishes pressure?

Their online guide has no pressure, either Min or Max loads.
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Have you ever reloaded before? If not, I suggest sticking with a 240 gr jacketed bullet from a reputable manufacturer. jacketed bullets are much easier to have success with from inexperienced reloaders than lead, especially since one does not have to worry about bullet fit to bore/throats and jacketed bullets are more forgiving when it comes to crimp. While the bullets cost more, good accuracy is generally easier to obtain from random jacketed than random lead. What you spend extra for a few hundred jacketed bullets may well be worth the lessened disappointment and headaches one can have with lead, since Rugers are notorious for differences in throat sizes.

Once you have slugged your bore and throats, understand the reloading process and have had good success with jacketed, then moving on to lead may be for you. JMTCs.
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Since I don't have a clue as to what/where your local bullet supply is...lets start with cast lead bullets . For plinking, tin cans and targets I like the LEE 429-214-SWC over 8.0 grains Unique powder .
If that seems to be be too much cut the charge back to 7.5 grains of Unique , this load is also a good accurate one .
Gary
That 214 gr Lee with mid loads is my most accurate bullet in all three of my .44's.
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