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Old August 4th, 2019, 01:32 PM   #31
 
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I've got a Redding balance beam scale that is about 40+ years old but according to my weights it's still 100% reliable. I also have an digital Lyman ran on a single AAA battery that has proven fairly accurate once warmed up, but the trick is to have it warmed up and away from other electric appliances when in use. However when I start to approach maximum loadings I rely on my Redding balance beam exclusively.



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I used an Ohaus beam scale(the RCBS 505, but a different color) for ~40 years, then bought a Dillon Eliminator. I use a set of Lyman check weights to zero for lower charges, and a 53 gr. Verified weight varmint bullet to zero for larger charges.
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What do you guys feel about the hornady balance beam scale? IS it at least better then the lee safety scale?

I started with just a lee safety beam scale, and when I realized it I tossed it and stopped reloading until I can find a better option..... but its been 4 months now without figuring out a replacement.
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What do you guys feel about the hornady balance beam scale? IS it at least better then the lee safety scale?

I started with just a lee safety beam scale, and when I realized it I tossed it and stopped reloading until I can find a better option..... but its been 4 months now without figuring out a replacement.
I have a lot of Hornady products that I use everyday and like a lot. Their LNL balance beam is one that I donít. I went through several of them when they first came out a few years ago and Hornady ended up giving me a electronic bench scale instead.
None of them would match any of the test weights I have and to be frank are poorly made. But there seems to be many out there who have it and have had no issues with it. I appear to be one of the few who like the Hornady electronic bench scale as it has been working for several years now with no issues.
If you can find a used RCBS 505, 1010, Ohaus, Redding, in mint shape that would be the way to go or look at the new ones that the OEMís have.
If not then maybe give the Hornady beam scale a chance.
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I have a lot of Hornady products that I use everyday and like a lot. Their LNL balance beam is one that I donít. I went through several of them when they first came out a few years ago and Hornady ended up giving me a electronic bench scale instead.
None of them would match any of the test weights I have and to be frank are poorly made. But there seems to be many out there who have it and have had no issues with it. I appear to be one of the few who like the Hornady electronic bench scale as it has been working for several years now with no issues.
If you can find a used RCBS 505, 1010, Ohaus, Redding, in mint shape that would be the way to go or look at the new ones that the OEMís have.
If not then maybe give the Hornady beam scale a chance.
Im hesitant on a scale that claims to use "knife edge pivot points" like lee and hornady claim too.

I had my lee have a unique machining issue that gave it an option for 3 yes 3 places for the little razor blade to balance on. AND you actually couldn't get it get on the same spot twice. And none of the spots gave identical measurements.
Last time I tried to use it, I was loading 10 grains of red dot into .308 Winchester, I measured out in 5 grain measurements, and well when I was done I ended up with 20 grains in my case... although the pan balanced out at 10 using the big ball bearing.... So ive been avoiding reloading.

I was also using the newest yellow lee dippers, but have an issue is that SOME give you less then they are supposed to, and others give you MORE..
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In past have cleaned my 505 with rubbing alcohol, not sure if this is best?.

Keep mine in a little cubby but my little workshop minimizes dust, almost none it seems. Yet was also curious if other contaminates in air could settle on any precision instrument?

May consider keeping it in a cabinet.
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Im hesitant on a scale that claims to use "knife edge pivot points" like lee and hornady claim too.

I had my lee have a unique machining issue that gave it an option for 3 yes 3 places for the little razor blade to balance on. AND you actually couldn't get it get on the same spot twice. And none of the spots gave identical measurements.
Last time I tried to use it, I was loading 10 grains of red dot into .308 Winchester, I measured out in 5 grain measurements, and well when I was done I ended up with 20 grains in my case... although the pan balanced out at 10 using the big ball bearing.... So ive been avoiding reloading.

I was also using the newest yellow lee dippers, but have an issue is that SOME give you less then they are supposed to, and others give you MORE..
All the balance beams use knife edges. Why not look at electronic scales?
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Been using my RCBS 505 beam scale decades, never a problem i check zero then use my RCBS check weights to confirm zero, and i am off and loading.
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magnetic damping caution

I've been using a Lyman Pro 1000 for a number of years. No complaints, but one caution and one recommendation.

Magnetic damping, at least on my scale, works well but can lead to small errors. The forces that provide the damping do introduce slight resistance when the scale is near equilibrium and at rest or moving slowly. The result is a tendency to stop prematurely, yielding a false reading or to be slightly restrained from moving from the stopped position. It's a noticeable event if you're watching what you're doing, so no real problem ... a slight bump on the pan to force a larger motion and things invariably settle correctly.

Check weights are always a good idea but need not be pricey calibration weights. Really, any odd piece of metal or whatever of known weight (or, more properly, "knowable") stable weight can be used ... I have several pricey commercial calibration weights but my most used and useful check weights are just odd bits of metal and a magnum primer that were cleaned once and are kept in a closed container.

In using check weights, you want to validate the scale reading beyond and below your target weight but at a reasonable interval. If my target is 5.2 grains, I'm much more comfortable knowing that my scale is reading correctly at 4.1 grains and 6.7 grains than I would be at 0 and 100.
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So with all the recommendations on scales what did you get ?
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Bought RCBS 505 to check against my RCBS ChargeMaster 1500. But before the 505 I have used a Hornady digital and "cheapie plastic Lee 100 grain scale" which for my pistol chargers worked fine. I have checked my "cheapie plastic Lee 100 grain scale" against the 505 with no difference with the exception waiting for the scale to stop bouncing.
I am very happy with the 505 and put the "cheapie plastic Lee 100 grain scale" out to pasture after 20 years of use.
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I have tried 7 different digital scales over the years, and sent them all back. My ancient Ohaus 5 0 5 still serves as my gold standard.
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I'm also in the RCBS 505 camp. Its never given me any problems.
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I've been using a Dillon for over 30 years now with no problems.
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So with all the recommendations on scales what did you get ?
About to pull the trigger on an Ohaus 505.

Thanks for all the replies.
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