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Old July 31st, 2019, 09:49 AM   #1
 
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Glad I did this early

Usually I wait till a few weeks before deer season to check my 3 hunting rifles. Both my 06's run Remington green box and my Mini 30 uses Herter's brass ammo. I am a hunter and not interested much in the finer points of tuning a gun for its favorite ammo.

Shooting was done at 100 yards, 3 to a group, from a gun sled. Anyways, the point of my post...

- the Mini 30 - it did it's normal 2 moa and printed 3 inches high. For fun I shot a few cheap steel rounds and they did 3 moa at almost the same POI. My 3 buddies all wanted to shoot it. Around 40 rounds later, back in case.

- the No 1 (Leupold VX2) - it did it's normal 1 moa. My buddy got even better than I did with it and got about 0.75 moa. It was hitting 2 inches high. Done, back in case.

- the M77 (old high end Tasco, my main deer gun) - it did its normal 1 moa for me 2 times, then started sending fliers 4 inches out. Focus went away in the scope. I bought this gun and scope new 30 years ago when I was poor and it has been dead reliable. I would have changed scopes by now but just did not see the need. I ordered a new Leupold VX3i in 3.5-10 x 40mm today. Called Ruger and they are sending me newer torx screws to mount it, since my old screws suffered upon removal. All those years hunting in the rain sort of locked the screws up tight.

I am really looking forward to some new glass on my trusty 77.
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Old July 31st, 2019, 10:18 AM   #2
 
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You are going to have a really nice hunting battery when the new scope is sighted in on the M77. I need to follow your lead. I have been shooting my .243 and .270 during the off season, but my .30-06 needs zero confirmed. My muzzle loading rifle has a new scope on it that has never been sighted in. Primitive weapons season opens in early October. I need to get shooting!
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Wow, those are some nice rifles, the stock makes them stand out.
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Old July 31st, 2019, 11:14 AM   #4
 
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Wow, those are some nice rifles, the stock makes them stand out.
THX,

If you are talking about the M77 inserts....I found them at a country gun shop. I love my old 77, it has been the provider of many a deer.

As an aside, the reason I even went early this year was my hunting partner was sighting in a night scope. He and 2 friends have a place to hunt piggies in TX and do it at night. Anyway, they had 3 AR platform guns set up with suppressors and IR night vision. A 6.5 spc, a 308, and a 300 black out. Holy crap was it fun. I have never shot anything like these rifles. Banging a steel plate in the darkness, with a suppressor, was pretty darn fun. I as afraid to even ask what they cost, 2 of them were piston guns the third was direct impingement.
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Corndog, Don't know if you are aware but scopes have an "inner tube" called an erector tube. It must pivot in front much like a universal joint when the turret screws in the rear are adjusted. Many of the lower grade scopes use nothing more than a rubber "O" ring for a "U-joint". If the scope gets exposed to high temperatures (like in the trunk of a car on a hot day) or as the rubber starts to rot with age, the erector tube will move to a different POA with each shot fired. Leupold, Nikon, and other brands of higher quality scopes use a polymer or metal "ball joint" that lasts forever and holds zero perfectly. I posted an article in the Forum E-Library titled "Scope Dope" that covers most of the issues with scopes. You might want to take a few minutes to read it before you spend money on a new scope. Here's a link: https://rugerforum.net/e-library/61505-scope-dope.html
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Corndog, Don't know if you are aware but scopes have an "inner tube" called an erector tube........snipped by me
Yes sir, I have been lurking here much longer than posting and have read some of your resources. You obviously spent a lot of time doing these write ups and it shows. I will have 4 Leupolds now, when the new one arrives.

My cheap Tasco has been thru hell and back. It has suffered rain, snow, heat, cold, mud, the ATV, being knocked over, loaned to friends....you name it. I am not sure if the adjusters went south or just something fogged it up inside. The scope was so bad I was using the one on my other rifle to see where I was hitting.

I was due for an upgrade. I hunt with guys who love to give me crap about my Ruger and Tasco, so it became a badge of honor to out hunt them with it. I make no apologies for shooting Ruger, but the Tasco had to go.....
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That is great you found the bad scope now and not at the deer camp the night before the opening.
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Range report.....

New Leupold VX3i came 1 day after ordering. It took Ruger a week to mail me my Torx screws....sigh. The matte SS screws look much better than the old black screw heads. Bore sighted scope looking through barrel. Cross hairs were 8 inches right of bullseye before touching turrets. Moved cross hairs looking through barrel to bullseye.

Loaded with cheap Remington 150 grain Core Lok. First 2 rounds hit the 2 inch bullseye,1 inch apart, pair centered on the vertical (100 yards). Put 7 clicks of elevation in the scope and shot 2 rounds, once again 1 inch apart, pair centered on the vertical, and 1 3/4 inches high.

Fired a 3 shot group, clustered at the same center as the pair before them. 1.75 inches high of center.

The fastest I have ever zeroed a new scope. I love the VX3i and have always loved my MkII. Quit for the day as it was a steady quartering wind. Will recheck it tomorrow if the wind dies down.
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Range Report 2.....

I took a little more time and used a very nice bench rest this time.

Target 1 is MK77, Core Lokt, 100 yards, 10x on scope.

Target 2 is Mini 30, Russian 158 grain, metal case, soft nose. 50 yards. I can not see the target I was using well enough at 100 yards (1.5-4X scope) to get a good group. Thinking I may invest in higher magnification glass.

My Mini surprised me. Shoots the cheap stuff as well as brass cased ammo.

2 inch bull, 1/4 inch grid lines.
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