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Old July 8th, 2019, 08:17 PM   #16
 
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I must have been having a "senior moment" when I stated I didn't know what the designation 3032 was, kind of like my Beretta .40 caliber 8040 Cougar.



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Old October 6th, 2019, 06:00 PM   #17
 
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I have a recent model Tomcat INOX and it is a great little shooter for what it is. It is perhaps my favorite carry pistol due to its small size. It will do nice little groups out to maybe 7 yards, which is all you can hope for from this class of firearm.

If you don't use hot ammo such as the Fiocci (160 ft.lbs.) and stick to the other ammo within the specs (130 ft. lbs.) there is nothing to worry about in terms of the frame.

The Tomcat is an accurate and reliable .32 caliber pistol and a great little carry pocket gun.
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Old October 7th, 2019, 08:37 AM   #18
 
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From the Beretta website:

Frequently, our departments receive emails and calls concerning an “issue” with our 3032 Tomcat frames cracking. This is mostly misinformation, perpetuated over the years in various mediums.

All Tomcat frames are built using 7075 T6 aluminum, the exact material used to manufacture AR-15 lower receivers. At the time the firearm was introduced to the market in 1996, it's cartridge, .32 ACP, was relatively weak, when compared to the muzzle energy produced by many modern cartridges. Upon introduction, the muzzle energy limit was set at 130 ft. Ibs. As time passed, many ammunition manufacturers got in to the practice of increasing the muzzle energy produced by these cartridges, to a point where in some cases, the cartridges could easily exceed 150-200 ft. Ibs of muzzle energy, much higher than the 14 ounce aluminum frame can tolerate. Herein lies the problem.

Yes, the frames can crack, however, the issue in question stems from the use of improper ammunition, that exceeds the tolerances of the aluminum frame. If the owner purchases ammunition with a higher muzzle energy than specified, repeated use will crack the frame. This is not a defect with the firearm, and damage resulting from the use of improper ammunition is not covered by the factory warranty. Moreover, new Tomcat purchases typically carry a small note card, or note in the manual, indicating these ammunition limits.

In response to this ammunition issue, in 2007-2010, Beretta USA began manufacturing Tomcats with widened slides, with the capability of absorbing more energy and preventing cracks from the use of improper ammunition. However, this has not affected the muzzle energy limits.

Ammunition manufacturers may change the muzzle energy of their cartridges over time. With that in mind, it is incumbent upon the buyer to learn the parameters of each box of cartridges purchased. Online purchases are very helpful, as charts usually accompany the purchase, and demonstrate cartridge metrics. Moreover, the buyer should check for each purchase.

To that end, the purchase of a used Tomcat carries some risk, as the prospective buyer may never know how the pistol was treated by the original owner.

If your Tomcat has suffered a cracked frame, then it will ultimately need to be retired from service, as the frames, which are serialized and regulated, can be neither replaced nor repaired.

On rare occasions, we have been known to sell the owner a new Tomcat at wholesale cost, should this issue occur.
And I call BS on this. I have an original Tomcat with exactly 250 rounds through it - EVERY single one rated at 130 or less - and I noted just the other day that the frame had "the crack".

I have also read - correctly or incorrectly - that it doesn't really matter anyway, the cracked part cracks from harmonics and isn't really a stress bearing part. If that makes any sense. Apparently, people continue shooting them as is without issue. I'm not advocating this, do your own research. Now that mine has cracked, I'm going to do a bunch of investigation.

As for the gun itself, I've never warmed to it - I inherited it from my late Father, who shot exactly 6 rounds through it. To my hand, its a nasty little gun with a horrid recoil pulse, even with the rated .32 ammo. I'm much rather shoot my LC9s.
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I have a recent model Tomcat INOX and it is a great little shooter for what it is. It is perhaps my favorite carry pistol due to its small size. It will do nice little groups out to maybe 7 yards, which is all you can hope for from this class of firearm.
It felt good in my hand at the last show, but I had already purchased my “2019 gun,” a Ruger NM Blackhawk in .357, way at the other end of the spectrum. I feel the itch now for a .44 special Blackhawk...

In 2020 I may revisit the Tomcat, since I still want a .32. Thanks again to all who opined on this gun. Duly noted!
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I too, have a Beretta Tomcat (blued) with a cracked frame. I bought it well before the "wide frames" came out and noticed the crack while cleaning it after a range session.

I sent it back to Beretta and when they finally responded they stated that it should be retired from service and that they`d give me $100 credit towards a new Tomcat. I called BS too and still have it in a box in the back of the safe. I thought about trading it/ selling it but didn`t want to screw over someone else. Figured that if another "gun buyback" is offered here like before then I may take it down there and at least get a little out of it.

When I bought the Tomcat, there were few reasonably priced pocket auto`s out there and the Tomcat had just come out and all the gun magazines were hyped up about them so I got the first one I saw locally. As it turned out, I should`ve waited for a couple of years. I don`t recall any specific warnings about high power ammo in the owners manual so it may have been before the issue of cracked frames became known...or I may have just forgotten
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I have the Tomcat Inox. My very favorite carry gun. The frame cracking issue can be avoided by not shooting ammo with a muzzle energy over 130 ft./lbs. (basically .32 ammo over 71 grain).

My Tomcat is very accurate, super reliable, and fun to carry and shoot.

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Having multiple Bobcats in .22 and .25 the Tomcat appealed to me even with the known issue. It goes to the range every other month for 50 rounds, using ammo @ 130 ft.lbs.

If I had a cracked one I'd be peeved too.
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