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Old April 1st, 2019, 06:04 PM   #31
 
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I have the Kimber,Colt and the SP and love all three. I think the Kimber would be number one then the Colt and the SP last. But that’s just me and like I said I love all three.

P.S. I mostly pocket carry a LCR 9mm or 357.



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Old April 25th, 2019, 03:32 AM   #32
 
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I've several SP's, a Cobra & Night Cobra. Just posted a few days ago about issues I've had w/the Colt. Took it to the range just yesterday, it's on it's way back to Colt for a 2nd time (last trip took 4 months; keep that in mind...) Have heard both pro's/cons on K6. Handled one recently and it is beautiful, w/six shots and buttery smooth trigger. As K6 is the most costly of the 3, waiting to see if DASA has any bugs to work out...but it has great allure. As to your OP between Cobra vs SP...my .02 is this. I've put thousands of rounds through both platforms. The Colt has a better out of box trigger, balances well & feels lighter @ about same weight, is dead nutz accurate and w/some Altamont grips a sublime shooter. W/a hammer spring & trigger work, the SP ain't no slouch; but is more tool'ish in design/function. Six shots of .38, plus that trigger, give Colt the edge. But...after having two cylinder lock-up failures on my Cobra, for as much as I Love It, I would stake my life on the reliability and ruggedness of my SP101. True, QC @ Ruger leaves much to be desired, but CS @ Ruger won't leave you hanging for months on end 'if' you needed work done. In my experience, less than or just at two/three weeks is about average turnaround for Ruger CS to fix anything. Throw in parts avail, and design features...SP is a clear winner. Colt is an awesome gun, no doubt. Others may have had no trouble w/theirs at all. But if your primary goal is to use, abuse and trust a gun to work no matter what if called upon...the SP is a proven and time tested piece. Get both is my advice...but if only one, The SP is your Huckleberry.
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I don't think any newer Colts will be able to keep up with the Ruger SP101 for durability. They ain't the same as they used to be.
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Phish, based on my experience, I totally agree. Really do love the new Cobra for what it is. But an SP, it ain't. If they ever shove 6 rounds in an SP...I'd go broke. lol.
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Phish, based on my experience, I totally agree. Really do love the new Cobra for what it is. But an SP, it ain't. If they ever shove 6 rounds in an SP...I'd go broke. lol.
I agree with your sentiment, a 6 round 357 sp101 I would buy immediately.

Thanks all for the input. Now, please add in the steel S&W J frames to the consideration, as I have been considering them as well.

The 64o intrigued me for the no snag carry, but also SA ability retained, the 640 pro intrigued me for the sights, but the one i had been looking at the hardest was the model 60 3 inch with the adjustablr sights. I just wish they were 6 rounds though
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SP-101 with a 3in. Barrel in .327 Federal Magnum. It's the six shooter that you're looking for. Do a little research into the .327 Fed. Mag. to understand the versatility of this chambering.

They require some breathing on to bring them up to the trigger feel of both the S&W and Colt.

Take down the SP 101 and polish up the internals. It's fun and easy. Tons of YouTube videos to walk you through buffing stuff up. I've always been satisfied with the results of this simple clean up process. Some take the refinement to the level of lighter trigger return springs and hammer springs (main spring) along with shimming the trigger and hammer. I don't believe that altering the trigger spring pull on a revolver that you carry is a good idea. I've always got the results I've been looking for on the SP101 by just polishing up the internals.

I've taken my .327 Magnum to another level with a mirror polish finish and some custom G-10 grips. I also did some file work to dehorn the revolver of all sharp edges and to remove the MIM casting lines on the hammer and trigger.

So, how does the SP 101 stack up out of the box? It's very rough and crude compared to both Colt and S&W revolvers. Ruger Customer Service is very good. I really can't say about the other two manufacture because I just have never had to use their CS. You really have to take down the revolver and examine the internals to understand the roughness of this revolver. It's a production gun and it's tough as an anvil, but it is rough on the inside. That's exactly why the trigger pulls feels like it's in a sandbox.

I very much enjoyed the process of making my lump of coal into a diamond.
But I know that not everyone would enjoy that amount of work.
I have about 20 hours of handwork in this revolver in the pictures. Obviously, you couldn't afford to pay a gunsmith for this type of detail work, or at least I couldn't.
It's all done by hand without any special tools, just elbow grease. I'm not a gunsmith and I don't even play one on TV.
Any moron can do this type of detail work and I proved it!
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I would choose the model 66 for a six shot if I was buying a new 38. For two legged SD the six shot SP would probably do the job but in 327. Both options less than the Colt Cobra.

As far as the trigger, I have not found a gun yet I could not accurately shoot with an out of the box trigger. That includes a old Colt Police Positive that has a trigger pull of 18#. I am old, but not that weak. Most departments that had issued revolvers pre semi auto did not allow tampering with the internals. Officers back then had a much better hit to miss ratio than today with the semi autos with the less than 8 # triggers. IIRC Smith K frames were 15# out of the box.

I owned at one time one of the Colt Cobra alloy frame. The gun was not a pocket gun, I traded it for a model 36, and later bought a model 19 for IWB carry.
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Phish, based on my experience, I totally agree. Really do love the new Cobra for what it is. But an SP, it ain't. If they ever shove 6 rounds in an SP...I'd go broke. lol.
They already have a six round SP.
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I carried and shot an sp101 for years and traded it off. Today I bought another one and am anxious to take it to the range. I have never shot the colt but is sure looks nice.
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