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Old July 16th, 2012, 08:12 AM   #1
 
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large safe, small safe, any safe?

ok, i can see now that this hobby is going to get happily out of hand ( i'm still salivating over getting a remington 870, to be followed shortly thereafter by a mark lll, and who knows what else). talking with a friend last night, and the subject of safes came up. i'm beginning to think i might need one. budget would be a major factor. what are people's thoughts regarding a safe that will hold, say, half a dozen long guns and a couple handguns, and won't break the bank? i know quality matters and to an extent you get what you pay for, but one of those fantastic safes that cost in the low 5 figures just isn't going to happen. i'm thinking mid-3 figures, which is probably ridiculous to think i can get something worthwhile for that, but others here on the forum i'm sure have more knowledge and thoughts than i do on the subject. suggestions?



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Your thinking to small, you might think you only need room for 1/2 a dozen guns but collections grow and you need room to expand, buy the largest one you have room for in your house, and best quality you can afford, I see used gun safes for sale often cause someone bought one to small and needs a bigger one, just start out big as you can, it can also be used to store other valubles as well not just guns.
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Any safe is better than no safe. Don't pigeon hole your self buy the biggest, best you can afford. In the long run you won't regret it. You'd be surprised what you'll stick in there while your away it is a good peace of mind.
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I got a 46gun (about the size of a large refrigerator) few years ago payed $750 on sale at Tractor Supply was &1000. Now thinking should have went bigger ....? almost full
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My advice is to get the biggest most secure safe your budget can manage, it's amazing what you'll end up wanting to put in that thing once you have it.



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Get the best and biggest you can afford. Those devilish firearms have a way of multiplying in the safe.

Many will have a single shelf but you can usually add another easily so look for plenty of long gun space.
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The above comments make a load of sense and I would tend to agree. I guess I'm a different bird as my income has never allowed me to just collect and continue to do so. When I shot skeet I had a few shotguns and just a couple of handguns. Then after skeet I had less shotguns, but more handguns and even a rifle. Then I shot SASS and ended up with a load of each type of gun (SASS = a huge gun bill). Now I'm back to small 22 lr's and mainly handguns. During two moves and my collection needs changing (ie. I had to sell something to buy the next gun), I've been able to get along with a gun security cabinet. Now it's nothing like Fort Knox, But I've been able to locate my cabinets inside a closet and have it securely bolted to the walls and floor. I also drill and hasp the door to put additional padlocks of the safe. It's a delay factor anyway. If someone is hell bent on getting into your safe, they'll get into it. I prefer to have my guns inside my bedroom closet while I sleep rather that a huge safe that I can't monitor in another room if not the garage as some people do. I even have a locked up the ying yang two drawer file cabinet next to my bed that has leather gear and other stuff I want to keep my grandson out of and I topped it with a Biometric pistol safe for my house gun snubbies. Cheap is not necessarily bad. It's not showing your stash to anyone at anytime and keep them hidden. That way, your safe does not become the target during a robbery. Smithy.
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I bought this one for $600 plus another $28 for a dehumifier at our local Southern States Coop store. Of course none of them hold as many guns as they say they will, but I have 7 long guns and about 9 pistols in it plus a little box for cash, valuable, etc and it is not really over crowded. You just have too arrange it properly.
I am satisfied with it. It has a good fire rating. I shopped around quite a bit and found this to be the best deal or value in my area.

http://www.fortresssafe.com/pdfs/Her...del-Series.pdf
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Good safe, great prices

I just bought a gun safe that holds 14 long guns and has a shelf for at least 4 or 5 handguns. I bought it at Wal-mart, on their site Walmart.com for just about $400. It is a Sentry safe, combo lock, pretty heavy with large steel bolts that lock the door. You can bolt it to the ground or to a wall and comes with all the hardware, The inside is covered in felt type carpeting and I just bought 10 velco holsters for $59. that stick to the door to store more hand guns. It is fire rated for 30 minutes so if you have antique guns better spring for a pricier model. I'm thinking about buying another to store my ammo. Also Harbor Feight tool stores carry a Bunker Hill brand that is about the same price and most stores have one on display. Not as many long rifle slots, but a nice one. My safe is black, the Harbor Feight safe is a grass green. Good luck with your search. Bill

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I bought this one for $600 plus another $28 for a dehumifier at our local Southern States Coop store. Of course none of them hold as many guns as they say they will, but I have 7 long guns and about 9 pistols in it plus a little box for cash, valuable, etc and it is not really over crowded. You just have too arrange it properly.
I am satisfied with it. It has a good fire rating. I shopped around quite a bit and found this to be the best deal or value in my area.

http://www.fortresssafe.com/pdfs/Her...del-Series.pdf
Your right none of them do hold what the say they will, for example a 24 gun safe has 24 notches for barrels but they are so close together you end up using every other notch and find it only really has room for 12 guns to fit.
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If you belong to Costco they are always running gun safes on sale. The prices includes the delivery, I bought the big Cannon Scout. They sell the Winchesters and the Big Horns also.

Scout Series 33 - Scout Series - Product Line | Cannon Safe I’m almost positive this is the same safe I got through Costco for 799.00 delivered. Looks like there was a price increase. Back when I bought mine it was almost 1400.00 on the Cannon site. Mine is the silver which was all that was available through Costco. It’s well built, I realize it’s not their top of the line but for the money it’s a decent safe. It has predrilled holes for bolting it down and has a 110 outlet for your Golden Rod to plug in.
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If you belong to Costco they are always running gun safes on sale. The prices includes the delivery, I bought the big Cannon Scout. They sell the Winchesters and the Big Horns also.

Scout Series 33 - Scout Series - Product Line | Cannon Safe I’m almost positive this is the same safe I got through Costco for 799.00 delivered. Looks like there was a price increase. Back when I bought mine it was almost 1400.00 on the Cannon site. Mine is the silver which was all that was available through Costco. It’s well built, I realize it’s not their top of the line but for the money it’s a decent safe. It has predrilled holes for bolting it down and has a 110 outlet for your Golden Rod to plug in.
Don't know about the Cannon but the Winchester safe Costco carries is a lower grade than what you buy from a safe dealer, my Winchester Safe I bought from a safe dealer has more and bigger bolts, higher fire rating and a 5 point handle instead of 3, I paid about the same price I would have at Costco but got a better safe, so shop around.
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As about all the others have mentioned. Buy as big as you can. I started out with a Liberty 27 gun safe which I outgrew. I then bought a Stack-On cabinet with the pistol cabinet above, which is pretty easy to get into without much trouble. I then acquired a Heritage 27 gun safe which I also outgrew. We then bought another Liberty safe, a 14 gun which we put in our bedroom.

Looking back I would of a bought a Fatboy, 64 gun capacity. However I have outgrown that and would need another safe anyway LOL LOL I started out with a glass door 6 gun cabinet back in the day and now have the above mentioned 3 safes and the stack on cabinet. I still have sh*t stacked on top of safes as there isn't enough room. Some cheaper ammo and guns are in Stack-On.
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I mentioned a cabinet bolted into the walls inside a closet and never let anyone know what and where you have it. It made me remember a co-worker that I use to go hunting with. He got a huge safe (not sure the gun count), but it was too heavy to put inside the house because of door way issues, but mainly due to its weight and the fact his house was basically on stilts overhanging a creek. The front yard and garage slab were both on solid ground so the safe went into the garage. Seemed fine at the time, but my friend liked working in his garage on various projects including reloading. I guess it was at this time that the soon to be bad guy had scoped out the garage contents and when my friend was away with his family on vacation, the guy(s) hopped the back fence to pop the side door to the garage and open the garage door and moved the entire safe and its contents into a delivery van and took it to be opened at their leisure. Another very strong reason to have a complete description of each firearm along with serial number and hopefully a picture of it all collected up and kept in a safe deposit box or some other fire safe secure location other than the safe itself. Smithy.
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I mentioned a cabinet bolted into the walls inside a closet and never let anyone know what and where you have it. It made me remember a co-worker that I use to go hunting with. He got a huge safe (not sure the gun count), but it was too heavy to put inside the house because of door way issues, but mainly due to its weight and the fact his house was basically on stilts overhanging a creek. The front yard and garage slab were both on solid ground so the safe went into the garage. Seemed fine at the time, but my friend liked working in his garage on various projects including reloading. I guess it was at this time that the soon to be bad guy had scoped out the garage contents and when my friend was away with his family on vacation, the guy(s) hopped the back fence to pop the side door to the garage and open the garage door and moved the entire safe and its contents into a delivery van and took it to be opened at their leisure. Another very strong reason to have a complete description of each firearm along with serial number and hopefully a picture of it all collected up and kept in a safe deposit box or some other fire safe secure location other than the safe itself. Smithy.
From what I have heard bedroom closets are the first place thiefs look for guns.
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