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Old September 14th, 2019, 11:36 AM   #1
 
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Shotgun Booby Trap - A Really Stupid Idea

I just cannot imagine at what point this man thought to himself that this was the best way to deter a thief.


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Old September 14th, 2019, 12:31 PM   #2
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He ended two lives. Don't set up cameras just blow your neighbor away remotely. What was he planning to do dig a big hole after.
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Wrong on so many levels. It will interesting to see what his punishment will be in December! Makes you wonder what the real story may be...
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Why was he entering the shed? Why did he ignore the signage ?I’m not saying the booby trap was a good idea........but you get what you get when you mess with another mans property...........
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Bad idea all around but I don't see how this is 1st degree murder. The 'victim' trespassed and burglarized the shed. If he trespassed and broke into the shed and was mauled to death by a watchdog would that also constitute murder? I doubt it. I don't agree with this prosecution at all. I could see a conviction for felony endangerment or something along those lines but not murder.
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Thieving neighbours are the worst, I'd have opted for for something else but I can understand his frustration.
They basically openly steal from you and nobody does anything about it, police say they can't do anything unless they get caught red handed and legal action is the same.
I'd rather a semi punji stick trap, a few sharp nails in a board where they have to step on them to break in, that way it's hard to prove anything malicious by the same legal reasoning that let's the thieving picks get away with it for.

I'd love to set one up with a dye pack, literally catch them red handed.
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Bad idea all around but I don't see how this is 1st degree murder. The 'victim' trespassed and burglarized the shed. If he trespassed and broke into the shed and was mauled to death by a watchdog would that also constitute murder? I doubt it. I don't agree with this prosecution at all. I could see a conviction for felony endangerment or something along those lines but not murder.
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They make those little gizmo’s that set off a shot gun shell but it doesn’t have a barrel so it just goes bang. My guess if the person had a heart attack it would still be a murder charge?

Most cities won’t even prosecute theft at all any more unless there is bodily injury. In Seattle you can hold someone up on the street with a knife and will not be prosecuted unless you actually stick them with it because it then becomes aggravated assault.

They would never prosecute a person from theft from a shed obviously they needed to do it to get by.

Example of Seattle prosecution: One man arrived from Chicago in 2015 with a violent-crime history. He has since been involved in more than 50 criminal cases, mostly on and near the University of Washington campus and Capitol Hill.

Last June, after being arrested for threatening pedestrians with a stick, smashing storefronts and chasing a woman getting off a bus, he was released the next day on personal recognizance. He went back to the U District and was arrested in July and again in August for shoplifting and threatening Safeway employees. Nine days after that he was arrested for assaulting a mother with two young children at a bus stop at Broadway and Pine. In a plea deal, he received what amounted to a 60-day sentence, with 304 days suspended. He has been booked nine more times since his release.

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Bad idea all around but I don't see how this is 1st degree murder. The 'victim' trespassed and burglarized the shed. If he trespassed and broke into the shed and was mauled to death by a watchdog would that also constitute murder? I doubt it. I don't agree with this prosecution at all. I could see a conviction for felony endangerment or something along those lines but not murder.
It would be worse then that down here, unless you didn't have a gun licence, if you did you would probably get more for failure to store a firearm and failure to store ammunition correctly, using a firearm for a purpose other then specified on you license conditions.

Yet when I was up in Darwin I got woken one night to a chilling growl followed by and even more chilling screaming.
Two indigenous gentlemen were trying to pull a 3rd one over my fence but were having trouble trying to drag my 45kg (100lb) mastiff cross that was attached to his leg over with him.
I couldn't play tug with this dog as he would lug me to the ground and start dragging me, he could even pick up an average sized pig, just a strong strong dog.
I got him off and thought I'd better call the cops, I was really worried about that as he would have been put down as dangerous in a southern state, the cops asked which leg was bitten, I said the right and then they said no problem we will keep an eye out and if he shows up in hospital.
I said your not worried about the dog? They as long as the dog was in my yard then it's fine.

Never had a problem after that, I guess word got around.
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I wonder what he thought would happen? Did he think the police would show up drag the guy off and give him a medal. Tough to argue he felt his life was in danger when he set a shotgun in a locked shed. It's one thing if someone breaks into your home as you legitimally fear they are going to kill you. Sure it angers you when someone steals from you and there are ways to resolve that without setting a claymore.
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Wasmund's defense attorneys said their client had complained of thefts on his property and suggested Spicer was there to steal. Lawyer Thomas Mansfield argued Spicer caused his own death by ignoring "no trespassing" and "do not enter" signs and breaking the lock on the shed door, he said.
He hired attorneys that were like thinkers.
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The fact is you can't set booby traps in any state.
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