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Old July 15th, 2019, 08:13 PM   #46
 
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My story is that I was in a Houston motel, and about three AM, some guy tried to jimmy open my window.

Armed myself and waited with flashlight in hand. Planned to kill him after he was in the room if he showed aggression. But I wanted him fully in the room before I fired. Turned out to be a drunk whose wife found him and took him in tow. They never knew how close he came to being shot.

I wouldn't open my door to somebody who said I was in his assigned room. Could be a ploy to stick a gun in your face and rob you or worse.

Maybe if some of these motels whose staffs mess up so badly were sued, they'd care more.

In my case, the motel wasn't at fault. I simply thought I had a burglary attempt or a murderer to deal with.

Last December, a man tried to break into my apt., shouting vile obscenities. I guess he couldn't hear me through the door. I armed myself, took cover and called 911. Police and Security FINALLY arrived. And the intruder turned out to be a drunk whose Uber driver dropped him at the wrong apartment complex. He thought he had the right apt, and that his girlfriend was being obstinate about letting him in.

I thought of suing Uber, but decided to let it drop. But I'm pretty bitter about the event and how long police took to arrive. And the officer didn't come up and report to me. I had to call the station and they contacted him. That's how I found out what happened.

I wanted the intruder to break the chain on the door and enter before I shot. The broken door/chain would be evidence that he'd forced a safeguard and entered with violent intent.




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Old July 28th, 2019, 11:05 AM   #47
 
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Forget the door chain, no matter how secure it looks, most of the time it's held on by two 1/4" screws that will come out with a good push on the door...always use the deadbolt. Always take the bed furthest from the door, to give you a second or two more of wakeup time during the confusion.

Yea, you should get the room for free but you should have pushed for it right then and there, not later with a letter to HQ. I would be really angry at the front desk for causing the situation. Either way, glad you didn't have to pull the trigger.
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Our daughter works in hospitality and tells us this is a fairly common occurrence. My wife and I were on the outside of one of these - my wife made the manager go into the "new" room and check it before we'd go in!

And its been decades since I've been in a hotel with a door chain - they all use those hook do-dahs now. Use it and throw the deadbolt...
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Never had this happen.

Usually I park a chair under the door handle. If the chair isn't that good I will put my shoes under some of the legs. The door pushes into the chair, they get tangled up, this blocks the door. It'll give me some time to do something.

I thought that Motels/Hotels had computerized registries just to prevent this kind of nonsense. Guess they're not that good?


Fortunately nobody got shot.
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Couple of thoughts. As a retired prosecutor and multiple law enforcement jobs before that, you cannot shoot a person who claims you have stolen his room. You can only shoot folks, Castle Doctrine or not, when they pose a likelihood of committing serious bodily harm to some person. The Castle doctrine does not give you a right to shoot strangers in your house. It is simply a legal tool that creates a bar from prosecution if you are protecting some person in your house. Also there is the stand your ground laws, which simply means you do not have to sneak out the back door when a burglar enters, you can stand and defend where you are. That might also be a hotel room, a car, a sidewalk or wherever. But those legal defenses only help you if you act reasonably. If the person kicked the door open and then stood outside and did nothing more, you would have zero right to shoot that person.
Laws vary from State to State, sometimes from place to place.

I figure if I don't know the laws of the locale then I better have a good reason to hurt someone.
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This is all on hotel management. Don't know that I would have apologized either but not pushed back on the door from the outside. A call to the police (if my stuff was in there) and a trip down to the desk to ask WTH. The chain owes both of you a free comped room!
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The idiot, Mr. Stupid, really? ....... You blame him because he had a working key given to him by the hotel and thatís his fault how??? The blame rests solely on the management. Thatís who you should be complaining about.
No. You are way off base. I do in fact blame Holiday Inn very much, But I blame Mr. Stupid, because he was forcing his way in with me on the other side, with my shoulder agaist the door. Are you indicating that you would have told the people that YOU were coming in anyway, and pushed against the force of a man on the other side of the door, just because you were wrongly issued a key to the wrong room? I hope not. That would make you unstable, or maybe stupid.
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No. You are way off base. I do in fact blame Holiday Inn very much, But I blame Mr. Stupid, because he was forcing his way in with me on the other side, with my shoulder agaist the door. Are you indicating that you would have told the people that YOU were coming in anyway, and pushed against the force of a man on the other side of the door, just because you were wrongly issued a key to the wrong room? I hope not. That would make you unstable, or maybe stupid.

I am way off base........really???? You my friend are way off base insinuating that I'm unstable or stupid!!! You don't even know me. For all the gentleman, (notice how I don't disrespect him by calling him "Mr. Stupid") trying to enter the room knew was that you were in his room. After all he did have working key issued by management. What's so hard to understand about that??

Did you think when you posted this thread that everyone was gonna fall in right behind you and take your side? After looking through the posts not everyone did.

I can't believe you are responding to my post from July 10th. Does it bother you that much?

Maybe it's time to put this incident behind you and move on.
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I am way off base........really???? You my friend are way off base insinuating that I'm unstable or stupid!!! You don't even know me. For all the gentleman, (notice how I don't disrespect him by calling him "Mr. Stupid") trying to enter the room knew was that you were in his room. After all he did have working key issued by management. What's so hard to understand about that??

Did you think when you posted this thread that everyone was gonna fall in right behind you and take your side? After looking through the posts not everyone did.

I can't believe you are responding to my post from July 10th. Does it bother you that much?

Maybe it's time to put this incident behind you and move on.
Mark: Maybe you are not understanding. They man was "NOT simply trying to USE HIS KEY, to get in. Totally wrong image. I was on one side of the door holding it closed with my weight, and he was trying to force it "OPEN". My wife laying in the bed, had to get out to get my gun. I could not get it dead bolted, as he had his foot against the other side of the door. I also didn;t post his dialog, as it was colorful and threatful, not suited for this post. If your telling me that you would have just let him in. I don't believe you. I gotta call BS on that. I just found your reply post, and to be honest if had a troll feel. I should not have feed your troll. But you wont convience me that your would let a stranger "FORCEFULLY" Enter your room with your wife still lying in bed, with out me calling BS. I think you were just trolling me. I am sorry for feeding that troll. You "WERE NOT THERE UNLESS YOU WERE THE FOOL ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT DOOR.

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My wife and I are in a Holiday Inn Express, it's about 9PM, and we are already in bed with an early morning hike planned. We hear the door open and I bolt out of bed and hit the door with my shoulder slamming it back shut. Yes, we forgot to deadbolt it, it was chain locked. I hollered out this room is occupied, and the idiot on the other side of the door, actually responded, "No this is my room and my Key works so I'm coming in.". I deadbolt the door, and this idiot is still trying, while my wife pulls my P89 out of the holster. Finding the door deadbolted, the idiot goes back downstairs to complain. Where stupid is told that they accidentally, rented out the same room twice. Mr Stupid, had no idea that we were armed. Wheew! Can't fix stupid.

Could you believe that HIE didn't even say sorry?
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The idiot, Mr. Stupid, really? ....... You blame him because he had a working key given to him by the hotel and thatís his fault how??? The blame rests solely on the management. Thatís who you should be complaining about.
Ok, here's your opening post.................here's mine. How is this that trolling? I don't troll anyone, period. If I did you'd damn sure know it. What my post took issue with was the fact that YOU put all the blame on the GENTLEMAN who thought it was his room, NOT the management company. What I take issue with is the lack of respect you showed this man on here, i.e. "the idiot", "Mr. Stupid". You need to cut this guy some slack, or does belittling other people boost your self esteem, or maybe it makes you feel better about yourself? Again, trying to break into your room is one thing, having a key is different.

Was it wrong for him to try to force his way in? Probably......but he thought you were in his room, so maybe you're at fault in his eyes, maybe you're the idiot, maybe you're Mr. Stupid. There's two ways to look at everything but you choose to take the "victim stance". The management company put you BOTH at risk, assign blame solely where it belongs.


I will reiterate, get over it and move on, stop playing the victim here.....I'm outta this thread, it's going nowhere.
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I think we're done here. Hopefully we've all learned not to trust the key card system at a hotel for our room security. That has been my take away from the thread, which is now closed.
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