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Old April 17th, 2019, 06:39 AM   #1
 
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Man killed after gun accidentally goes off.

So many details missing from this story.

My guess is that the gun was not holstered.

Sad for the family and happy that the baby will be okay.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/chuck-e-c...-bag-baby-girl



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Old April 17th, 2019, 07:24 AM   #2
 
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That's no accident. Idiot needs a holster to keep the trigger covered, that's all.

“You don’t expect anyone would bring a gun around where kids would be. It just doesn’t make any sense,” John Gerrard, who was at the Chuck E. Cheese at the time of the shooting with his 2-year-old daughter and wife, told WBRC.

This is an overused statement of the uninformed. Yet, look at all the school shootings, 'where kids would be'. No one 'expects' guns at a grocery store either, but Gabby Giffords was shot outside a Safeway store in Tucson. How about churches? Movie theaters? Plenty of shootings there, too. Hey, Mr John Gerrard, kids are EVERYWHERE. Now go ask the parents of the kids killed at Columbine if they wished someone had a firearm to save their child...

Carry everywhere, and stay safe. There will never be 'gun free zones' for criminals.
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Bad situation for all involved just because of NOT using a holster?!. Details missing but glad others did not get hurt. Best advice out there-> Carry safe at all times! And as stated above "Carry everywhere, and stay safe. There will never be 'gun free zones' for criminals. "
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I seem to remember that not too long ago someone threw a shoe at a spider (and there was a handgun in the shoe) and it went off. Don't remember if anyone was hurt.
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Quite the irresponsible action. I do advocate keeping one in the pipe for SD carry. If you are going to carry one in the chamber, it BETTER be in a holster on your body! Not left bouncing around in the diaper bag, or any off body article.

Glad the baby is ok. Let's hope they make him attend firearm safety training!

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Oooops. Missed the part where guy was killed.
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This is sad and tragic, more so because it is so preventable. Yes, details are missing, but something Jeff Cooper said comes to mind. He refused to use the term accidental discharge as they are all preventable. He insisted on using the term negligent discharge, and that seems to fit here.
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One of the rules...........keep finger off trigger until you want to shoot. Feel sorry for the deceased and family.
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This is sad and tragic, more so because it is so preventable. Yes, details are missing, but something Jeff Cooper said comes to mind. He refused to use the term accidental discharge as they are all preventable. He insisted on using the term negligent discharge, and that seems to fit here.
I agree. An “accidental” discharge would be when a properly handled firearm discharges due to unlikely and unforseeable events, like having a snake slither into the holster and squeeze the trigger.

Most “accidental” discharges I’ve seen - and I’ve seen the aftermath of hundreds by now - have almost universally been the result of people improperly storing or handling firearms. The one exception was a broken sear on a pistol carried “cocked and locked”.

In fact, most of the “accidental” discharges I’ve seen would fall into the category of what my father used to call “premeditated carelessness”. These are situations that anyone with a grain of common sense would see as potentially dangerous.

Putting a loose firearm in a diaper bag would be one of these situations...


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This is sad and tragic, more so because it is so preventable. Yes, details are missing, but something Jeff Cooper said comes to mind. He refused to use the term accidental discharge as they are all preventable. He insisted on using the term negligent discharge, and that seems to fit here.
99 percent of all "accidents" of all kinds can be traced to human negligence!
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Why was the gun in the diaper bag??? If the guy had it holstered on his body, this would be a moot point.

If you carry, you should carry on your body IMHO.

My wife was wanting to purse carry until I discussed with her the fact that the first thing a purse snatcher was going to take was...her purse, and her gun. And if the SHTF and she needs her gun, the last thing she wants to be doing is digging around in that mess.
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Probably a tupperware gun with no external safety. Got his finger or some object inside the trigger guard (this type ND happens regularly) and he won't make that mistake again.

Gun not properly stored.

Sad. Prayers for the family. Didn't have to happen.
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