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Old November 4th, 2019, 10:03 AM   #31
 
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This is mostly true in common scenarios faced in civilian self defense shootings.

HOWEVER, I believe that when you consider performance when penetrating barriers like autoglass, vehicle panels, doors, furniture and other objects there is often a significant difference between something like a .380 or .38sp and 9mm, 40 cal or 357.

I've never heard about any of the above on trial for trying to commit a crime on a human with a gun. What about an Oak tree or brick wall?

Will you have to shoot through a barrier in your hypothetical self defense scenario? Probably not... but who knows.

Yeah, I could see being stuffed in the trunk of a car with my gun and having to shoot my way back out.

Maybe you're in a restaurant and have to shoot through a booth or pane of glass.

May be best to plan on eating at restaurants with open seating.

Maybe you're in your vehicle and have to shoot through the door.

Best to stay out of those parts of town.

Perhaps you're in your home and you have to shoot through drywall.

And then be forced to pay to have it all replaced? I'm too cheap. I'll wait for 'em to poke their head around the corner.

All outside chances and certainly not the 'norm', but certainly worth considering.

I just did. Sounds like 1 in a 300 million longshot for all of them.

I believe Paul Harrel has a video out there where in a test .380 caliber bullets only penetrated a vehicle door about 50% of the time at a relatively short range.

Sounds pretty good to me. 50-50 chance of living. What are the chances of any caliber bullet getting straight through the door without the flight being altered by what it hit in the door or outside steel of the door?

With that said, I carry a .380 pistol quite often. Is it the most effective firepower? Absolutely not, but by carrying a pistol instead of a rifle I'm kind of already sacrificing power for concealment. Sacrificing a bit of barrier penetration for substantial increases in concealment is something I can live with. If it leaves me dead in the streets then so be it, at least I tried... and god willing there will be an empty pile of brass around me.
Phew! We're finally on the same page and you said it perfectly.

(the rest of the stuff I posted above it is what's called, "yankin' yer chain". Don't get upset.)



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I quickly went through these posts and saw nothing about the LCR 327 Federal Magnum. This is my EDC. Reasons:
1. all the Ruger LCR design features. Weight, size, etc.
2. The ballistics of the round fall between the 38 spl and the 357 mag.
3. You get 6 rounds instead of 5.

What's not to like?
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This is mostly true in common scenarios faced in civilian self defense shootings.

HOWEVER, I believe that when you consider performance when penetrating barriers like autoglass, vehicle panels, doors, furniture and other objects there is often a significant difference between something like a .380 or .38sp and 9mm, 40 cal or 357.
Caliber war, anyone? In the house, I reckon I should have a long arm. I shoot shotguns a lot. No one argues about what a 12 gauge does, in slug or buckshot, to a human.

As for handguns, carry what you shoot well, and train a lot. Few handguns have the momentum of a rifle or shotgun round.
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Toakey45036 again. Sorry I'm a newbie and I couldn't see any way to edit my previous post.

Another advantage of the 327 mag is you can shoot multiple calibers at the range. 32 S&W, 32 S&W Long, and 32 H&R Magnum. My LCR will even shoot 32ACP however the don't extract very well because they are semi-rimmed. BTW I have a S&W 32 H&R Mag, Model 43PD, and it doesn't shoot the 32 ACP reliably. Probably has to do with the depth of the chamber to the shoulder.

A disadvantage is the the ammo is on the expensive side and sometimes hard to find. I'll shoot 32 Longs for trigger control and general practice and once a month or so shoot 327 mag. to remind myself that it kicks more than the longs.
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LCR 38 is my favorite carry gun going on 7 or 8 years now.
Here that and totally agree. I've been carrying my LCR .357 for going on 4 years...prior was a spurless SP101 .357. Both are great guns. I carry mine IWB appendix at about 1 o'clock. So very comfortable that I get home and I forget that it's even there until I change clothes or use the can.
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