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Old February 1st, 2019, 06:33 PM   #46
 
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Closest thing is that I have a tendency to leave one gun in the console of my truck and sometimes depending on what I am wearing that day, might choose to carry something else, so I will have one on my body and one in the truck.
X2, not a fan of off body carry unless it is secured like a locked vehicle. Sometimes it is easier to on body carry multiple sidearms to the range rather than break out the cases.



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I know it's popular with law enforcement for various reasons (or at least that's what some believe) but do any non-LEO types actually carry a second firearm with them in the event their primary firearm is inaccessible for whatever reason?
I do not CC a back-up-gun...but I do carry back-up-magazines as one never knows if or when one will fail...and I do carry an extra speed-loader with the .38 revolver.
Also, being that I (sometimes) CC a Glock 36, an extra magazine in a pouch never hurts to have with anyhow either.
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Almost everyday.
I'm with this guy. I don't work as a LEO or in the military, but I do work in private security and tend to see the less favorable side of folks fairly often. I'd say about 60-70% of the time I carry a Taurus TCP 738, LCP 380, or KT P-32 as a BUG. Sometimes in an ankle holster, somtimes in my jacket or pants pocket on the weak side should my main firearm become inaccessible. Theoretically, is where I personally feel a magazine disconnect is a good thing.....
For example, if I get ina scuffle over my gun with someone, I'll just drop the mag and hand over the gun or try to toss it. They'll think they have the upper hand when in fact, the gun has been rendered inoperable. This gives me the time and advantage to pull my BUG and end the encounter should I ever find myself in this sort of scenario. That's just my two cents. Why not have a 2nd gun in case of that, it jams, fails in any other way, or for any reason is taken from your possession.
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Great info!! I CC most of the time, but do not at present carry a BU.

Want some serious info from an experienced fellow, go to YouTube and search for: Clint Smith Thunder Ranch. He is X-Vietnam, X-LEO and owns a Shooting Academy out west.

Great info, but ......... his language can get colorful.

A few points he made in one of his videos was:

"if your primary weapon fails, why would you pull out a smaller weapon to continue the fight"

"when you're carrying, the weapon cannot be small enough, but when you need it for self defense it cannot be big enough"

" the fights over when you run out of ammo"
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I carry a 380 acp Ruger LCP2 in my back pocket as a backup gun. The pants I wear have the velcro closure back pockets and the pistol is in the holster that came with the gun. Around the house that LCP2 is sometimes my primary pocket gun when I'm wearing sweat pants.

The reasons why I carry a backup gun is in case my primary carry gun or my dominant hand/arm gets damaged in a gun fight or is tied up blocking an attack and can't be used to draw my primary gun. At least I'll have something else I can grab with my off hand. I do carry an ESSE 3 knife on my off side too. So I have a choice between a 2nd gun or a knife in the event my dominant hand can't be used. The 2nd reason is in case my girlfriend doesn't have her own gun on her she knows it's in my back pocket and if we ever get in a situation where she needs it she can grab it from my pocket herself. I don't carry a spare mag for the backup gun though. I figure the odds are low enough of ever needing the backup gun already so I only carry a spare mag for my primary gun.
This is pretty much my set up.
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Great info!! I CC most of the time, but do not at present carry a BU.

Want some serious info from an experienced fellow, go to YouTube and search for: Clint Smith Thunder Ranch. He is X-Vietnam, X-LEO and owns a Shooting Academy out west.

Great info, but ......... his language can get colorful.

A few points he made in one of his videos was:

"if your primary weapon fails, why would you pull out a smaller weapon to continue the fight"

"when you're carrying, the weapon cannot be small enough, but when you need it for self defense it cannot be big enough"

" the fights over when you run out of ammo"
Clint Smith carries an ankle gun as a backup. Search for his youtube video titled " Clint Smith on Ankle Guns "
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Your 1911 may be reliably sound. But can you both reach and draw it from its current position on your body with your non-dominant hand if needed for whatever reason?
And for a more serious answer, if someone is grappling with you there are self defense measures that will be quicker than pulling a gun with the offhand and will also result in your dominant hand being freed.

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I usually carry 2 revolvers. One in front pocket in an Alabama holster and the other iwb. That's 10 shots total. (11 if one is 6 a shot) If I'm approached by a suspected BG , I can put my hand in my pocket, and get a good draw grip on that revolver and be ready for a lightning fast draw. Nobody knows that but me. I mean everyone walks around with their hands in their pockets, right?

If I'm surprised, the iwb draw would be faster. Or if my right hand or arm is injured or busy fighting off said BG I can reach around with my left and draw.

If there is multiple BG, 5 shots probably won't be enough, so their is my New York reload, which is faster than reloading a pistol. (For me anyway). Of course some may say if you had a pistol you wouldn't have to be reloading yet. But what if your using a single stack 6 + 1, that's 7 vs 6 (assuming a 6 shot revolver). Anyway , that's what I do, YMMV.
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This is NOT meant to be a criticism of what anyone chooses to carry, but ...

I wonder what some of you folks (1) do for a living or (2) what areas you frequent or (3) what situations you anticipate finding yourself in, that make it necessary to carry multiple firearms, multiple knives and/or other weapons on a daily basis.

Armed To The Teeth seems to apply to many of the responders.
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I usually carry 2 revolvers. One in front pocket in an Alabama holster and the other iwb. That's 10 shots total. (11 if one is 6 a shot) If I'm approached by a suspected BG , I can put my hand in my pocket, and get a good draw grip on that revolver and be ready for a lightning fast draw. Nobody knows that but me. I mean everyone walks around with their hands in their pockets, right?

If I'm surprised, the iwb draw would be faster. Or if my right hand or arm is injured or busy fighting off said BG I can reach around with my left and draw.

If there is multiple BG, 5 shots probably won't be enough, so their is my New York reload, which is faster than reloading a pistol. (For me anyway). Of course some may say if you had a pistol you wouldn't have to be reloading yet. But what if your using a single stack 6 + 1, that's 7 vs 6 (assuming a 6 shot revolver). Anyway , that's what I do, YMMV.
I do the same but with semi autos. I carry a 9mm, 40S&W, or 45ACP IWB and a 380 or 32 auto in the front weak side pocket. That way I can have my hand in my pocket and still have my right hand free for whatever.

As far as the previous post above, I work in private security, and in general would rather be over prepared than under.
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This is NOT meant to be a criticism of what anyone chooses to carry, but ...

I wonder what some of you folks (1) do for a living or (2) what areas you frequent or (3) what situations you anticipate finding yourself in, that make it necessary to carry multiple firearms, multiple knives and/or other weapons on a daily basis.

Armed To The Teeth seems to apply to many of the responders.
I can't speak for others, but as to myself it's general contractor and home repair work. And more often than not, one of my arms is always being inconvenienced by something.
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This is NOT meant to be a criticism of what anyone chooses to carry, but ...

I wonder what some of you folks (1) do for a living or (2) what areas you frequent or (3) what situations you anticipate finding yourself in, that make it necessary to carry multiple firearms, multiple knives and/or other weapons on a daily basis.


Armed To The Teeth seems to apply to many of the responders.

I am a correctional officer. The offenders that are in prison have family and friends that are not. They can go to the law library any time and find out where we live. These crooks DO NOT like correctional officers because we tell them when they can eat , use the restroom , sleep , where to walk , when to talk , etc, etc, etc.

They have telephones in the day rooms, a simple phone call to their friends to pay me or my family a special visit can happen any day. And some of these guys eventually get out. I see 1 or 2 of them every year at convenience stores and other various places. I've never had one offer to buy me a beer and talk about old times.

I carry 2 small revolvers, that both loaded, weigh about the same as 1 loaded double stack compact. So I don't feel like i'm "armed to the teeth ".
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I typically carry either an airweight 38 snub OR a micro .380 auto. Very often without any reloads.

There were a few times in my life where I was concerned about a specific threat or individual and had specific concerns that warranted more. Doublestack 9mm IWB with 10+1 in compact configuration with 15 rd spare magazine and a backup .380 in 6+1 in pocket carry. OC on the keychain and knife in the pocket.

Truth is even with all that firepower I still felt very vulnerable and powerless to stop an attack. It at least helped me feel like I had hedged my bets a little, however.
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"those that do carry two or more weapons have some screws loose or are looking to be a hero sometime."

That's what they say about all of us.
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I carry 1 (of 2) firearms. "Backup" would be the Karambit folder on my weak side to deal with potential gun-grab.

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