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Old January 28th, 2019, 09:13 AM   #1
 
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LOP Am I doing Something Wrong?

I measured my length of pull according to
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According to Boyds then your stock is too long for your build. This may be a better way to test LOP than the elbow to the first joint in your trigger finger that I have used for years. If your stock is too long with street clothes then it is away to long with hunting gear on.

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According to Boyds then your stock is too long for your build. This may be a better way to test LOP than the elbow to the first joint in your trigger finger that I have used for years. If your stock is too long with street clothes then it is away to long with hunting gear on.

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If I measure from the joint closest to my finger tip (first joint) to the inside of my elbow (inside my arm) I come up with a lemgth of 15 1/8", that is a 2 1/8" difference in length.
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If I measure from the joint closest to my finger tip (first joint) to the inside of my elbow (inside my arm) I come up with a lemgth of 15 1/8", that is a 2 1/8" difference in length.
Do I understand you correctly........"your body" measures 15.125" and your rifle is at 13"? The so called "standard" for LOP on a factory stock is supposed to be at 13.5".

What rifle are we talking about?
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Do I understand you correctly........"your body" measures 15.125" and your rifle is at 13"? The so called "standard" for LOP on a factory stock is supposed to be at 13.5".

What rifle are we talking about?
I am measuring an unaltered Ruger American Predator with a LOP of 13 3/4".

If I follow the instructions in the Boyd's video I come up, on average, a LOP of 13".

Measuring my body (finger joint to inside elbow) I come up with 15.125"
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Here' what you are missing. The "finger to elbow" method is just a ROUGH estimate for MOST people.. Are you "most people"? I'm not.

Whether from a trusted Gunsmith, your Grandfather, or Donald Duck, the old "elbow" method is foolish...

When the gun is shouldered, it matters not how far you elbow goes out. It could go to China and back, makes NO DIFFERENCE. The butt in the crook of the elbow is irrelevant. Distance from buttplate to your NOSE is very important.

What DOES matter is the distance from your nose to the grip hand on the stock. 1-11/2" Any other method is "old wive's tale..."

https://www.dailyshooting.com/how-to...ength-of-pull/
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Here' what you are missing. The "finger to elbow" method is just a ROUGH estimate for MOST people.. Are you "most people"? I'm not.

Whether from a trusted Gunsmith, your Grandfather, or Donald Duck, the old "elbow" method is foolish...

When the gun is shouldered, it matters not how far you elbow goes out. It could go to China and back, makes NO DIFFERENCE. The butt in the crook of the elbow is irrelevant. Distance from buttplate to your NOSE is very important.

What DOES matter is the distance from your nose to the grip hand on the stock. 1-11/2" Any other method is "old wive's tale..."

https://www.dailyshooting.com/how-to...ength-of-pull/
The only thing that matters is if the rifle or shotgun feels right when shouldered. Everything else is just a model on how to get there, and all of them have their assumptions. Buttplate in the crook of the elbow and tip of the index finger on the forward edge of the trigger guard yields a good shouldering rifle or shotgun for me almost every time, although for a bench gun or a hard recoiling gun I like a little more LOP. The other exception is the AR. "Nose to charging handle" was beaten into me by my Uncle Sam at an early age.
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This explains somewhat why adjustable AR stocks are so nice. You can have a gun fit in summer clothes but when you add a couple jackets for deer/bird hunting all goes out the window. Trying to shlulder a too long shotgun lets the bird get away or shoot over em most of the time.
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When shouldering gun w/ hunting clothes, especially, do you have to push the gun out to keep butt plate/pad from catching on the clothes??

I have to lately as my shoulder is shot-worn out and needs to be replaced like the L one.

I esp likle my AR as the length is very adjustable depending on clothes for the weather.
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