Ruger 1 Guy

Pierre,
No problems cleaning from the breach end, the light speed hammer comes with the proper spring, there's only one maker and that's Moulds.

As to a scope, a lot depends on what your mostly going to use your # 1 for.

Being that I cant hunt any longer my # 1's are strictly shooters or range guns. Because of my eyes the lowest power scope I now use is a Unertl 24 X, and even that is getting to be not enough. I just bought a Lyman 30 X, haven't shot with it yet but looking through it I think it's going to work ok, the cross hairs look a little to fine for my eyes but that doesn't bother me as I can change them and put in larger ones that are easer for me to see without eye strain.

At this time I'm shooting five different # 1's, a 22 Long Rifle, 22 PPC, 6 PPC, 30 BR, and a 32 Miller Short, I like to have scopes for all of them so I don't have to keep taking them off one rifle to use on another rifle. I have had to swap them around for awhile but now that I bought this Lyman STS 30 X I wont have to. The run down on what I'm now using for scopes are 3 Unertl's, one Redfield, and one Lyman.
Ruger # 1 Guy

Paladin43

Ruger 1 Guy, I am mostly going to use my .204 for hunting, and target shooting at the range. I am not shooting at extreme ranges, but can see the occasional 400 yard shot. Not too many 600 yard opportunities in our neck of the woods,lol (not that I think I'm capable, nor would I be comfortable shooting at an animal at that range). I do hunt a 300+ acre farm here with a couple of long fields. That's why I'm thinking anything from a 14X on up to about 20X is good. I'm very open to suggestions. Can you send me a link to order a Moulds hammer & springs? I would like to install one on my No. 1

How on earth did you dig up Unertl and Lyman scopes? Those must be some real gems, not to mention real hard to find. Do you get someone like Parsons to do the reticles, refurbishing, and maintenance for you? Your type of shooting sure sounds like fun. Do you have Scheutzen type of stocks on your guns, or are they more in the line of 1B or no. 1 varmit type wood. I imagine they are pretty heavy for the kind of shooting you do. I am very curious about it. BTW, I would love to see your No. 1's, and the way you have them set up.

I have a heavy barrel Savage .22lr with a laminated thumbhole stock that I'm getting ready to get some work done on. The accutrigger on it is attrocious. Though light, a very scrapey, creepy, trigger. I get one-hole groups out of it. It is accurate for sure, but it takes effort. I have a little Leupy VXII deluxe 3-9 compact with adjustable objective scope on it. Not loving the set-up. Not fond of Leupold scopes. It's a bolt-action. I'm basically a single-shot lover, and would love to get a neat single-shot .22, and put some real good glass on it. Purpose: target and small game hunting. I might try small-bore silhoutte.

I think my 68 year-old eyes like (read, need) sharp quality optics, lol. Cheers,

Pierre

Paladin43

Ruger 1 Guy, I found the Mould's hammer (& Wolf spring) at the usual suspects, Brownell's and Midway, but Brownell's lists it as discontinued, and Midway doesn't seem to have it now. I also found it at EABrown, but do not like to do business with them, as they are unreliable and EAB is not easy to deal with. They post items as being "in stock," when in fact they are not. So, if you have a lead to a reliable source that carry them, I would be most greatful if you'd let me know. Thanks,

Pierre

Ruger 1 Guy

Pierre,
I've been shooting for just over 50 years now and bought some of my Unertl scopes direct from John Unertl himself, the Lyman STS 30 X that I just bought was from Gun Broker Auctions.

Changing reticules is no big deal with Unertl or Lyman scopes, I can teach most anyone how to do it in less than 10 min. There's not much maintenance to do on scopes like these and what little there is can usually be done by the owner.

The hammer may be a little hard to find right now as Frank Z. ( the owner of Moulds ) hasn't been feeling well, I think the person that I'm teaching how to build up # 1's for accurcy may have a few in stock, if so I'll see if he will let lose of one, he usually doesn't sell them, just uses them in the guns we build.

Target Shooting with the # 1 is not about long range, the Ruger # 1 shoot that is held every year is only shot at 100 yds, but it is about accurcy and the score on the Ruger regulation target.

The 22 PPC and the 6 PPC are Ruger 1-V factory guns, my 30 BR is one of the guns that we build, I shoot them in the Ruger Postal Shoot and other Bench Rest events, the # 1's in 22 LR and 32 Miller Short are the ones I use in the Schuetzen type events but they don't look like the typical Schuetzen rifles, they look something like a 1-V factory rifle.

I know what your saying about your 68 year-old eyes, mine are a bit older than that and it's one of the reasons I use the Unertl scopes when I can.

I'm going to try an get free sometime this coming week, my volunteer work is done for this year and we are just about caught up on the gun work we promised so should be done by Wednesday, will keep you posted as to when we can get together.
Ruger # 1 Guy

Paladin43

Ruger 1 Guy, thanks for the replies and the information. Target shooting is another dimension that I would like to learn about. Anything in the ASSRA that provides information on what it is all about and the how's and where's?

Look forward to getting together.

Pierre

Ruger 1 Guy

Pierre,
I was a member of the ASSRA for a few years, shot in a lot of there events and still shoot in a few of them, not as much as I used to. Unless things have changed recently they are not a progressive association, pretty much stuck back in time and don't want to do anything other than Pre 1917 stuff. Some guys like that and others don't, it's a no one can please everyone thing.

I believe there's room for both the lead bullet shooters and the modern bullet shooters, all they need to do is have two different classes or category's for it. But I don't think that will happen. They are what they are at this time.

As it is now when shooting in there events you must shoot all lead bullets, no gas checks or jackets on them, so if you intend to even try to be competitive you must cast your own bullets because you can not buy bullets that are accurate enough to shoot a decent score. They always have a few matches in Port Jervis NY, that I get to, it's not to far from us.
Ruger # 1 Guy

Paladin43

As for lead only rule, it think that in these times it's a little short sighted. You're right, commercial cast bullets are inconsistent for the most part, buying lead is getting more and more difficult, and the price keeps going up, and what if the government bans lead altogether? But then, that's how 'other' associations get started, and the existing ones that resist change, tend to fade away. One would think they would start other 'classes' to accommodate jacketed bullet shooters, and those shooting more 'modern' single-shots.

I used to mold my own bullets in .44 mag, .357, and .45-70. It started as a necessity (which I'll tell you about sometime). At some point, it ceased to be fun, was just too labor intensive (read time consuming), and then, when commercial cast bullets became available and were fairly consistent as far as hunting bullets and not target bullets were concerned, there just wasn't enough of a savings involved to merit doing it yourself. Add to that, scrounging for buckets of wheel weights from tire places has become harder as many shops have become wise to the fact that there is money to be made from that 'scrap.' Lately those discarded wheel weights are made from dubious mixtures. Of course, there are certain advantages to casting. And, the thought of making paper-patched bullets is enticing (talk about labor intensive-lol). But it was satisfying to bring game to the pot with cartridges that from start to finish you created yourself - except for the brass and primers. For that, I do shoot flintlock rifles, which of course, adds another fun dimension to the sport (can you tell I'm a romantic?).

Port Jarvis is real close. I'm right off 84 near the Mount Cobb exit. I sure would like to go and see one of those matches.

Cheers,

Ruger 1 Guy

Pierre,
I agree, ASSRA seems to be more than a little short sighted, I don't know what their problem is as it's a very simple thing to keep things separated, in this day and age we need all the shooting and gun enthusiast we can get.

I'll check an see what the dates are for the next Port Jervis matches, no matter what the rules are we always have a good time at that event.
Ruger # 1 Guy

Paladin43

Encore28, are you shooting your #1 .250? If so, how is it shooting for you?

Pierre

Gunluvr

They are the classiest & most elegant of the single shot rifles and like wine and good liquor they get better with age and each successful hunt they're used with.

Anti-gun and anti-hunting types will never understand this concept.

Paladin43

Gunluvr, I agree they are classy and elegant!

Well guys, I took my new baby out for a run Sunday, after a looong separation. The trigger really appears nice. It's crisp, and much lighter, but I don't have a gauge to check the exact weight of pull. Have to make a note to go buy one. My shooting was a bit disappointing. I would group 3 or 4 pretty tightly, then I would get a flyer or two. I'm pretty sure it was me, because I could see the scope pull a bit off target as I squeezed the trigger. Maybe the hammer is a bit heavy. I do have a bit of a parallax problem w/the tiny red dots at 100 yds. Could it be the ammo? Maybe. Anyway, I was not shooting the Hornady 40gr. bullets that I started with. Going to buy some more of them, and try different target bulls and see if I can get some improvement. If not, then maybe have to do an analysis w/Dr. Ruger 1 Guy to find out what I'm doing wrong, or what ails my baby. Don't get me wrong, it's still within "minute of woodchuck." But I know I can do much better than 1 1/2 MOA. Cheers,

Ruger 1 Guy

Hi Pierre,
A speed hammer would be a big help if you have the lighter barrel, in fact it is a help even on the heavy barrel 1-V.

As to why you cant get 5 shots to group or touch each other it could be way to many things to list here. We will have to get together and talk about it.
Has Dave said anything about how his # 1 is shooting ?.
Ruger # 1 Guy

Paladin43

Hi Ruger 1 Guy,

I certainly would like to do a speed hammer and spring job right away, if it's possible. I do feel that it would help a lot. Would also like a Kepplinger trigger. Anyway, I'm going back at it this weekend with different ammo and see if I can improve the groups.

Nope, haven't heard from Dave. I'm curious about the results he's getting from his No. 1. I know he's busy over the summer. Will try to contact him. Would like all of us to get together for a coffee. How's your next week look? I can't Tuesday, but otherwise I'm free every morning. Cheers,