Why do No. 1's carry such a premium?This is a discussion on Why do No. 1's carry such a premium? within the Ruger Single-Shot forums, part of the Rifle & Shotgun Forum category; Greetings,
Have you priced the Browning, Winchester, or any other quality single shot lately???
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December 4th, 2011, 07:09 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: kiamichi mountain SE Oklahoma
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Greetings,
Have you priced the Browning, Winchester, or any other quality single shot lately???
moondog911
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December 6th, 2011, 09:01 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Chesapeake, VA
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I have 11 of them and they all shoot MOD(minute of deer) or better. A couple that I roll my own for shoot much better, 5 shots you can cover with a nickel@100yds. Don't think they have accuracy problems. Some I know just don't outright like what they are fed but fed properly settle out. I have a .17HMR that's the same way. 5 shots in a beer cap @125yds when fed right.
Last edited by Metlhed57; December 6th, 2011 at 09:05 AM.
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December 6th, 2011, 11:28 AM
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Join Date: May 2010 Location: At the Range
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And unlike the Browning and Winchester I bet all 11 of them were made in the good old U. S. of A. 
Ruger # 1 Guy
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December 7th, 2011, 08:59 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Chesapeake, VA
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Originally Posted by Ruger 1 Guy And unlike the Browning and Winchester I bet all 11 of them were made in the good old U. S. of A. 
Ruger # 1 Guy | That would be correct, made by working Americans
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December 8th, 2011, 08:22 AM
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Join Date: May 2010 Location: At the Range
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Originally Posted by Metlhed57 That would be correct, made by working Americans | It'a always best to buy American when you can, someday the job you save may be your own. I do realize that for some it's price thing but when it comes to my SS rifles, well for me it's like waving a flag on the 4th. of July that was made in china, I am not going to do that.
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December 9th, 2011, 08:27 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: NC Montana
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#1s are awfully pretty but I'll never own another one. I had a 1B in .223 that exhibited all of the common #1 problems.
At the time (early 90s) there were actually gunsmith ads in shooting magazines that specifically mentioned fixing the #1's accuracy/bedding/stability problems.
I sent mine to one of the better known smiths who could reportedly do wonders, but it was still unacceptable to me after his voodoo.
I've known many shooters who swore by their #1s --- funny how most of them don't own them anymore. |
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December 9th, 2011, 11:53 AM
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Join Date: May 2010 Location: At the Range
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Hi Larry from MT,
As a shooter just how much accuracy did you expect out of a rifle like the # 1 ?.
Ruger # 1 Guy
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December 9th, 2011, 01:42 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: NE NSW Australia.
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I have always been under the impression that accuracy (along with their looks) was great with #1's.
I've just picked one up for that reason.
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December 9th, 2011, 06:11 PM
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Join Date: May 2011 Location: Mountain Brook, Al
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I have late model 1-V and !-RSI, and they fit my idea of accurate.
Best groups were .157" (twice) on the 22-250 v and .40" on a 30-06 rsi.
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December 9th, 2011, 07:03 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Texas
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As I'm not an owner and have no experience with them, for the price of a no. 1 I would hope accuracy to be .5" @100 yds from benchrest, using optics by an average shooter. Can an out of the box No. 1 obtain this without any additional mods, e.g. washers, screws, bedding, taking off barrel bands etc.?
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December 10th, 2011, 06:29 PM
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Join Date: May 2009 Location: Decatur, GA
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Because they are awesome to shoot and very accurate, out of the box. Today I stalked and shot a deer for the freezer with one in 45-70, it was a good feeling as I'm normally up in a treestand looking down. I find that as I get older I appreciate the old school simplicity of stalking deer and getting off one shot to put him down. The hard part comes after he's down.
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December 11th, 2011, 06:32 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: NC Montana
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Originally Posted by Ruger 1 Guy Hi Larry from MT,
As a shooter just how much accuracy did you expect out of a rifle like the # 1 ?.
Ruger # 1 Guy | It never was better than about an inch (5 shot group @ 100 yards) but that wasn't the worst of it. It was so unstable that groups might be 3" apart on different days. Or if you didn't rest the forearm EXACTLY on the same spot every time groups might OPEN to 2-3".
As I said, I had all the forearm work done --- at high expense. It still wasn't dependable.
In those days #1s were very popular. I'd often meet someone at our range who had a "very accurate" #1. However, somehow the shot-up targets never reflected that. There was an exception. A gunsmith buddy (in desperation) put a non-taper barrel on a .223 that must have been 2" in diameter and glassed the forearm solid to it. It weighed about 13 lbs. That one seemed pretty stable.
When someone brags on their #1 ---- Ask to see three, five shot 100 yard groups.
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December 11th, 2011, 07:49 AM
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Join Date: May 2010 Location: At the Range
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Well Larry from MT,
It seems that those days are gone, the Ruger # 1 is what it is, it's not a Bolt Action and wont shoot like one. But it will out shoot most any of the other Traditional Single Shot rifles that have a two piece stock, bar none.
The experience that PowPow has with his 1-V and RSI is about the same that other shooters have had. Notice I said "shooters", from what I've seen at the ranges I shoot at, I believe that the average hunter will never shoot a 1/2 inch 5 shot group, and they really dont have to for hunting.
In fact most average shooters may not shoot that good consistently.
But if your really into shooting Traditional Single Shot rifles that have a two piece stocks such as the Winchester Hi-Walls, Browning Hi-Walls, Stevens Falling Block, Dakota M-10 etc., you can pay more for any of theses but it would be very hard to improve upon the # 1. I know a lot of shooters that can and do with repeatability shoot under 1/2 inch 5 shot groups in actual matches with there # 1's and some are factory guns with nothing more that some trigger and hammer work. 
Ruger # 1 Guy
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December 11th, 2011, 02:09 PM
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Join Date: May 2011 Location: Mountain Brook, Al
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Not a BR guy. I would expect those guys to do all the time what I did a few times.
Accuracy, for my purposes, should be defined as one shot on a Saturday morning going in the about the same place as the shot from last Saturday. That would be two successful hunts. I've gone to the range, shot one shot, and put it up satisfied.
I may take the idea of "single shot" a bit to the extreme.
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December 11th, 2011, 02:16 PM
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Join Date: May 2011 Location: Mountain Brook, Al
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Not a BR guy. I would expect those guys to do all the time what I did a few times.
Accuracy, for my purposes, should be defined as one shot on a Saturday morning going in the about the same place as the shot from last Saturday. That would be two successful hunts. I've gone to the range, shot one shot, and put it up satisfied.
I may take the idea of single shot a bit to the extreme.
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