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Old January 4th, 2017, 03:22 PM   #1
 
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#1B 6.5 Creedmore in the house.

Brought it home today. Already started the barrel break in process with first stage cleaning. Will finish that tomorrow. Then it is on to a light polishing of the bore and then slow firing break in. One shot and clean for 5-7 shots, then 2 shots and clean for 5 or so groups, then three shots and clean..... well you get the picture. Old bench rest buddy of mine likes to do it this way.... seems to work.

I have my fingers crossed that I can avoid the vertical stringing. I have don so far on all my other #1's so hopefully this one will be the same.

I don't like the trigger as it is since I am used to a very light trigger. I wish those set triggers from a few years back were still available. That could solve a problem quick. Guess I'll just have to wait and see.....

Any way I am really excited about this gun.

If anyone is interested I know where another one is NIB for under $900.00

Have a great day.....



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Your barrel conditioning/break in procedure seems like a whole lot of trouble. I have never gone through all that for my rifles. I might be missing some slight degree of accuracy but I'm mot good enough to notice and I don't compete in benchrest competitions. I hope you get the results that you are trying for.
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Thanks. Its kind of old school but so am I. It has worked well for all my other #1's and other rifles as well.
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Congratulations! I was thinking hard on getting a No. 1 in the 6.5 Creedmore configuration, but after thinking about it for a bit I decided not to. I think that with a rifle chambered like that it would be best to handload the ammo to get the most out of it.
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Brought it home today. Already started the barrel break in process with first stage cleaning. Will finish that tomorrow. Then it is on to a light polishing of the bore and then slow firing break in. One shot and clean for 5-7 shots, then 2 shots and clean for 5 or so groups, then three shots and clean..... well you get the picture. Old bench rest buddy of mine likes to do it this way.... seems to work.

I have my fingers crossed that I can avoid the vertical stringing. I have don so far on all my other #1's so hopefully this one will be the same.

I don't like the trigger as it is since I am used to a very light trigger. I wish those set triggers from a few years back were still available. That could solve a problem quick. Guess I'll just have to wait and see.....

Any way I am really excited about this gun.

If anyone is interested I know where another one is NIB for under $900.00

Have a great day.....



Opinions go both (++?) ways about barrel break in. Most, but not all, custom barrel makers say to just start shooting. A few suggest the process you are going to use.

I think that for a factory barrel, that has a rougher finish than a custom barrel does, break in may be of some value. The cleaning procedure should be to first use conventional powder solvent and then copper cleaner. Clean out the copper until the patches are no longer green. Then remove the residual copper solvent, otherwise it will remove copper jacket material as the bullet goes down the barrel. This will be a very long, and expensive, process. This is why barrel break in is not recommended. Longer/heavier bullets that have more barrel contact may reduce the number of rounds required.

Shoot and clean a box of ammo and see what happens.


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On standard production rifles (Not Custom Barreled) I always clean the barrel naturally prior to shooting, however I use JB Bore Polishing Compound on the standard barrels of production rifles in order to get as many of the imperfections out of the bore as possible. It is a little bit time consuming but it will payoff in the long run. After the cleaning I just go out and shoot as many rounds as I feel necessary. So far I haven't been disappointed by any of my new rifles accuracy.

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Thanks guys.

Its cold and a bit of snow here today so I started the basic "new bore" cleaning process. When that is done, and the weather is better, it will be out to the range for some shooting and cleaning.
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Loose Noose,

What is the procedure you use with the JB Bore Polishing Compound? Brush wrapped with cloth? How many strokes? Etc?

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Opinions always vary on barrel break in. Since the OPs rifle is a 1B, I feel his procedure is a waste of time. It's not a heavy barrel, nor is it a bench rest quality barrel or rifle and will never shoot as such, no matter how you break it in.
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Thanks so much for your concerned comment. I guess, as they say, Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. I have done this process on a number of guns and it is just what I do.

As to the value or performance of this gun, well, its a challenge to see how well I can get it to shoot. I did not say I was looking for bench level performance. I expect to use this gun as a paper/varmit/light game hunting rifle. But I want the best performance I can get out of it. I know all of the accuracy fixes for the #1 and all about its projected performance after those fixes. If this barrel shoots crap, I have no aversion to going to a Bartlein, Lilja, Kreiger, Shilin, or if I could find it, a mint .264 Hart barrel.

I have been around precision rifles of various types for a good 55+ years. I am at the point in my life that I just want to tinker a bit. Sure, I could go buy a an off the shelf Cooper, etc., and even lay down the bucks to have one of those multi thousand dollar foam stocked pillar bedded bench tack drivers built as I have several close friends who do that sort of thing and really, money is not a problem.

I chose this platform because I am more a traditional single shot guy. I am always trying to get my guns to perform at their highest level and am willing to work to get that even though I understand that within the generally accepted performance parameters of precision rifles this gun may not be up to your standards. We shall see what we shall see. If I can get this gun to shoot at or under 1/2 MOA at 100 I am a happy camper.

Now, on to another point.... If your condescending comments are any indication of the type of folks on this forum there is a problem. You want to look down on a new, old guy, who just wants to tinker without asking politely why he chose this platform..... Have at it. Its not like I have not been "shot at and hit before and have the tee shirts to prove it." Remember youth and vitality can be overcome by age and deceit.

On the other hand.... perhaps you and I should sit down over a good bourbon together and talk about our individual preferences in rifle's and calibers..... I am all for that and I'll bring the bourbon.......

Thanks for your time.
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My post was neither meant to be hostile, nor condescending. Others had already said they thought an extensive barrel break in was a waste of time and I simply agreed......................by pointing out that a sporter weight barrel Number 1 was not a bench rest rifle and did not have a bench rest quality barrel. Therefore benchrest type barrel break in was not needed.

I have some experience in this area.........as I DO shoot benchrest, as well as having normal rifles like everyone else. My thought was to simply save you some time, but if you WANT to go through the process, it certainly won't hurt the rifle. I've never seen any difference in breaking in factory barrels, but maybe you will. The biggest thing with Rugers is loose chambers. That said and since the Number 1 is a falling block, OAL is not a concern. Instead of a extensive break in of barrel, I would likely experiment with OAL and would even try "jamming" at various depths and with different bullet shapes

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Thanks for your reply. I also have bench experience although not on the competition level. Just shooting with guys that do.......

I have been doing my barrels like this for quite some time and frankly I don't have a comparison because I do all my rifles this way save for some very high quality custom barrels. A different thread there perhaps....

I appreciate your concern for my time, however, being semi retired time is all I have.

I am not really trying to turn a sows ear into a silk purse, although that would be nice, but rather make that sows ear as pretty and smooth as a baby's butt....

Once I get it set up I'll let ya know how it does. The OAL will come into play after I check out some of the factory stuff.

Offer for the bourbon still stands.
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One thing about the Creedmoor is that it is a laser beam round. At least it has been in the rifles I have shot, even with the Hornady Match factory ammo. As of yet, I don't have a handload that is significantly better than the Hornady Match stuff. Why does that matter? Because you can about bet that if the rifle won't group, it's NOT the ammo if you are shooting the Hornady Match.

My 6.5 is a custom built on a Remington action with a straight taper 28" 1:8.5 twist Bartlein barrel
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Agree on Hornady box ammo from my experience also.

Do you have a reason for the 1:8.5 twist as opposed to1:8 or 1:9 or is it based on the probable use of a specific bullet. Just asking.......
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You can shoot a heavier bullet in a slower barrel if you really smoke them out of there. I can't say the 8.5 is way better than the 8 twist I had before on this rifle, but it shows promise. I am definitely not above trying something with a barrel just for the hell of it.......... It's just a barrel and my smith loves me.......LOL!!!
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