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Old April 28th, 2009, 05:45 PM   #1
 
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Ruger #1 vs Browning B78 or 1885

I have been looking for a Ruger #1 and the other day I found one at a gun shop. The action did not feel as solid or as tight as either Brownings that I have. Is this a misperception on my part? Any comments from those who have expereince with both actions?

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I have a Ruger No.1, 7 Mag and a Browning 1885 in 45-70. There is a world of difference in the "feel" of the action. The 1885 feels like a bank vault door on opening and closing compaired to the Ruger. The Ruger feels looser but in reality everything is tight. I suspect it's in the geometry of the cocking mechanism. Maybe hammer cocking on the 1885 vs. internal hammer on the Ruger??? Anyway, both are absolute tack drivers!!!!!! 'Mo
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Hornet41, I liked your analogy of the bank vault becasue the browning action was very smooth and solid. I am going to check out a gun show and see if i can pickup a ruger 1 or I am thinking a browing 1885 in 30-06.

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A fellow at the local gun show here (WA) has been trying to sell his B78 in 30-06 for several months now. He's asking $600. It's a hunter, not a show piece. I think I handle it every time I'm there. I must restrain!...
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B78 is very nice. That's not a bod price....
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I currently own 3 or 4 Ruger single shots and one 1885 browning traditional hunter in 45-70 but I've had others of both. I'm currently looking at another Ruger #3.
A couple comments from my perspective (I'm active in ASSRA schuetzen competition)

the Browning rendition of the Win 1885 looks more American traditional
the Ruger#1 has traditional english lines, the Ruger #3 is somewhere between the two.

Both are equally strong, modern alloys and heat treat have improved the original Browning/winchester design in that regard---IF you are comparing rugers and Highwalls--lowalls don't figure in the equation.

the out of the box Ruger needs a bit of tuning to get a good trigger pull, as does the Browning and both require the usual tweaking a 2-piece stock requires if you want more than minute of deer accuracy.
To me the BIG difference is that the Ruger is pretty easy to DIY with a Zika hammer and spring set and a little simple stoning and clean up of the trigger.
But the Browning triggers are the devil's own red-headed stepchild to work on. It is very complex and many gunsmiths refuse to work on them--more than once. There is a gunsmith or two who have built a business around
just tuning them for the BCPR/Creedmoor/Quigley crowd. there is a long back story to the browning trigger that was published some years ago by a (retired) Browning engineer. short version is that when it was redesigned for modern Miroku production it had a good adjustable trigger but that was tossed and one literally specc'd out by their liability lawyers was substituted that would be owner-proof, and it damnear is.

the fact I'm looking at another Ruger says it all.
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Are the older 1970's Browning B78 triggers that bad out of factory that they all need tuning?

Can iron sights be installed by a gunsmith on the older B78's without much hassle (on the octagon barrels)?
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Browning B78 problems?

I'm probably going to be getting Ruger #1 in 30-06.

But I did come across a nice Browning B78 in 25-06 (a nice compliment to a 30-06). But heard the B78 triggers are a pain and really heavy and hard to work on. True or rumor?

Should I stick with an 1885 instead of the B78? I'd like something different in addition to the Ruger #1.

Thanks.
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They are both beautiful guns! I simply love the lines and feel of the Ruger #1s.

Good luck in your search.
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So no need to avoid the B78's?
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I currently own 3 or 4 Ruger single shots and one 1885 browning traditional hunter in 45-70 but I've had others of both. I'm currently looking at another Ruger #3.
A couple comments from my perspective (I'm active in ASSRA schuetzen competition)

the Browning rendition of the Win 1885 looks more American traditional
the Ruger#1 has traditional english lines, the Ruger #3 is somewhere between the two.

Both are equally strong, modern alloys and heat treat have improved the original Browning/winchester design in that regard---IF you are comparing rugers and Highwalls--lowalls don't figure in the equation.

the out of the box Ruger needs a bit of tuning to get a good trigger pull, as does the Browning and both require the usual tweaking a 2-piece stock requires if you want more than minute of deer accuracy.
To me the BIG difference is that the Ruger is pretty easy to DIY with a Zika hammer and spring set and a little simple stoning and clean up of the trigger.
But the Browning triggers are the devil's own red-headed stepchild to work on. It is very complex and many gunsmiths refuse to work on them--more than once. There is a gunsmith or two who have built a business around
just tuning them for the BCPR/Creedmoor/Quigley crowd. there is a long back story to the browning trigger that was published some years ago by a (retired) Browning engineer. short version is that when it was redesigned for modern Miroku production it had a good adjustable trigger but that was tossed and one literally specc'd out by their liability lawyers was substituted that would be owner-proof, and it damnear is.

the fact I'm looking at another Ruger says it all.
Do the Winchester 1885 triggers have the same issues as the Browning B78's?
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...the out of the box Ruger needs a bit of tuning to get a good trigger pull...
Just speaking from my one experience, my circa 2005 RSI 7x57 has a beautiful hunting trigger. I had planned from the onset to get the Kepplinger trigger, but I tossed that out the window after just a shot or two. I never bothered to measure the pull in poundage, but I'd say it's a hair over 4 pounds with zero creep and very clean break.
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