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Old July 4th, 2013, 09:33 PM   #1
 
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Another Case Color Question

OK - Ruger's faux case color turned out to be not so hot so Ruger offered to reblue the case colored heavy frame Vaqueros at no cost and stopped offering the case color finish altogether. Was Ruger's inked case coloring method because they didn't want to set up to do true quenched case coloring or is the alloy Ruger uses in investment casting the frames not suitable for true case coloring?

I have a nice old heavy frame Vaquero with a case color frame and typical ho-hum Ruger bluing. Sometimes I think I could really have something if the frame was re-finished with a true case color finish (lots of plumes, etc.) and the bluing redone in a deep lustrous blue. Custom shop work I guess. Is the alloy in the frame a problem to get the results I am envisioning?



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I just can't wait to see it done!

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Seems to be trend toward clown guns.
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That would seem to answer my question - thanks! That looks like what I have in mind. I like the hammer too. Was thinking about the heavy frame Vaquero in 45 Colt with the 3 3/4" barrel and birds head grip frame. Or the medium frame Vaquero in 45ACP - that would be more unusual.
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They wrote me on Facebook, the price for blue and c/c is 450 on a new gun, more if it requires additional polishing, depending on condition.

I don't think their's is a true bone pack color case, it's something that works without heat treating the Ruger frame and quenching it like many do.

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They wrote me on Facebook, the price for blue and c/c is 450 on a new gun, more if it requires additional polishing, depending on condition.

I don't think their's is a true bone pack color case, it's something that works without heat treating the Ruger frame and quenching it like many do.

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That's interesting - wonder how they do it then? It looks like the real deal but I wouldn't want to trade off one faux finish for a better faux finish. I may talk to Ford's about it after I get my S&W K-22 back and see what they have to say about Ruger frames and case coloring.
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Waveform, The alloy in Ruger frames and cylinders does not lend itself to conventional CCH. Doug Tunbull found a way and has been doing CCH on Rugers and other brands of firearms for many years. It is a true color case hardening process with heat ... only it uses chemicals instead of the century old process with ground bone and charcoal. I've seen some of Doug's work .... excellent but very expensive. You can buy an authentic CCH Colt clone made in Italy for less than it would cost to have a Ruger done.
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Waveform, The alloy in Ruger frames and cylinders does not lend itself to conventional CCH. Doug Tunbull found a way and has been doing CCH on Rugers and other brands of firearms for many years. It is a true color case hardening process with heat ... only it uses chemicals instead of the century old process with ground bone and charcoal. I've seen some of Doug's work .... excellent but very expensive. You can buy an authentic CCH Colt clone made in Italy for less than it would cost to have a Ruger done.
Thanks Iowegan. I wondered about the alloy. Your point about the Italian replicas is a good one. I bought an Uberti Colt clone recently and paid about what the Turnbull package would cost. It has great case coloring and bluing. Maybe having a Ruger done would only make sense if it was a 45ACP gun and no Italian option.
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If you're trying to decide which, get one of the Story Bullseye Ejector rods and stick on it... Now what's that voice saying?

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I think a Turnbull-color-cased Old Army would be just marvelous.

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If you're trying to decide which, get one of the Story Bullseye Ejector rods and stick on it... Now what's that voice saying?

That's nice.... I have to stop listening to the voices in my head though. I get into trouble that way.
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One of my favorite T-shirts has this expression printed on it . . .

I DIDN'T GO TO WORK TODAY . . . THE VOICES TOLD ME TO STAY HOME AND CLEAN THE GUNS

Gets interesting reactions.

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Turnbull on an old Flattop.

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Ohhhh....that's nice! Does Turnbull give any instructions or cautions related to care of the finish?
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Mr Turnbull's work is of the highest quality, on vintage Winchesters, Colts and also Rugers..I can attest personally

I sent my Old Vaquero Birdhead back to Ruger to replace the "case color" turned brown into bluing in large part because I had several projects going on with Mr Bowen and the Bridshead in 45 Colt with anything except Cowboy loads too "interesting" on recoil to shoot much...the RUger bluing expeditious and perfectly acceptable...and free I might add...since purchasing I now restrict purchasing Rugers to Bisley
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