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Old March 23rd, 2013, 08:06 PM   #1
 
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Ruger New Vaquero timeline questions....

I have just searched the internet for 1/2 an hour and can't seem to find the answers I am looking for. I am thinking about buying a used New Vaquero in .45colt and I have some questions:

When did Ruger change how they bored the cylinders how do I tell on the gun?

When did Ruger move the ugly lawyer warning from the side of the barrel to the bottom?

When did they discontinue the case-colored finish?

Any insight would be great! Thanks in advance!



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Old March 25th, 2013, 04:44 AM   #2
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I believe the new way of boring the cylinders occurred when the lawyer warning went to the bottom of barrel. The color case hardening (which was never real color case) went away after the first couple of years of production of the New Vaquero. The New Vaquero came out in ~2005.

Now granted I'm not an expert and hopefully some more knowledgable than me will come along and correct me. I do own two New Vaqueros in 45 Colt and love them.
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I believe the last poster is correct.
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When did Ruger change how they bored the cylinders how do I tell on the gun?
I don't think Ruger ever did change how they bored the cylinders and if they did, it's not effective. I've seen some recently made BHs and Vaquero 45 Colts that had very tight throats. How do you tell? Try inserting a jacketed bullet in the throat (front of cylinder, nose first). If it passes with nothing more than light finger pressure, it's OK for jacketed bullets. Do the same with a .452" lead bullet if you plan on shooting lead bullets.
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my understanding ( I'm no expert ) is that all new Vaqueros were made with the new boring system...

also, been told to stay away from Ruger's CC ( as mentioned, not "real" anyway ) but that it's not any more rust resistant than the metal in the white... I had one guy, tell me he thought the case color actually attracted rust

I'm not sure of when they moved the warning from the side to the bottom... my early Montado pair are the early ones with the grooved grip frames, & they have the warning on the sides, the latest one I ordered for my birdshead project 2 years ago had the warning on the bottom
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also, been told to stay away from Ruger's CC ( as mentioned, not "real" anyway ) but that it's not any more rust resistant than the metal in the white... I had one guy, tell me he thought the case color actually attracted rust
It is a chemical CC not Flame..that is why it rusts so ez...or so I read.
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NitroAcres, Actually the color case process Ruger used was a special ink with "clear coat" on top. As soon as the clear coat wears off, bare metal with ink will rust very easily ... more so than just bare metal. Not a good finish!
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Ruger New Vaquero timeline questions....

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I don't think Ruger ever did change how they bored the cylinders and if they did, it's not effective. I've seen some recently made BHs and Vaquero 45 Colts that had very tight throats. How do you tell? Try inserting a jacketed bullet in the throat (front of cylinder, nose first). If it passes with nothing more than light finger pressure, it's OK for jacketed bullets. Do the same with a .452" lead bullet if you plan on shooting lead bullets.
My understanding is that originally, they used a 3 spindle tool to bore 3 chambers at a time.

A few years ago, they moved to a single spindle CNC tool. It bores all 6 chambers with the same tool. While still tight, and may vary gun to gun (when tools get changed etc) within the same cylinders, the consistency is better.

I read this on the Internet, so it must be true
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The consistency is better.
That is my experience... However they still have tight throats as Iowegan says. Not quite as tight as my original Vaquero. For example my New vaquero would pass a .451 minus plug gauge but not a .452.... And of course the simple test mentioned above was a 'non-starter' with a lead RNFP.... I didn't have plug gauges when I reamed my original, but a whole lot more shavings were present when reaming. Also my group size were cut in half after that job. After I reamed my New Vaquero, I really couldn't tell much difference in accuracy.... YMMV.

I am one of those (few) who liked the case coloring on my original Vaquero and have had no problem with rusting. Of course I live in a dry climate which may have something to do with it. I wish my New Vaquero had a similar treatment instead of just 'blued' .

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Thanks for the info guys, Did Ruger ever make a New Vaquero with the warning on the bottom of the barrel and a case colored frame? or did the color stop before the warning moved? I just heard of one like that for sale, but he didn't have pictures and I have never seen one like that.
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I can be counted in the "few" who like the color case Rugers. My very first Vaquero was a 44mag Bisley model with the color case finish. I shot it extensively and never had any issues with the faux color case.

My New Vaquero that I recently acquired was mfg in 2006. It has the color case finish and the warning is roll marked on the side of the barrel. I'm not sure when Ruger stopped putting color case finish on their revolvers; most seem to think it stopped between 2007 and 2008.. The one thing you can put money on; nothing is ever set in stone with Ruger. If I found out tomorrow that Ruger snuck a few limited runs in after 2008; wouldn't surprise me in the least.





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