Blackhawk .45 ConvertibleThis is a discussion on Blackhawk .45 Convertible within the Ruger Single Action forums, part of the Pistol & Revolver Forum category; I like the looks of this gun and really like the idea of two different rounds. Will this model handle heavy .45 Colt loads? I ...
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August 21st, 2012, 05:11 PM
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| Blackhawk .45 Convertible
I like the looks of this gun and really like the idea of two different rounds. Will this model handle heavy .45 Colt loads? I have read about midsize farmes versus large frames and that midsize frames won't handle the hotter loads. Which frame is this gun?
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August 21st, 2012, 06:20 PM
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| Which one are you talking about  . There is the .45 flattop medium frame convertible from Lipseys that will NOT handle Ruger Only Loads. Then there is the standard .45 Convertible Large frame which will. So which one are you talking about?
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August 21st, 2012, 06:21 PM
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I have both a new model and a Lipsey's flat top convertible in 45. The new model can handle ruger only loads and the flat top can not.
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August 21st, 2012, 06:35 PM
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August 21st, 2012, 07:18 PM
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The model that you linked is the New Model Blackhawk and it has the same frame and cylinders as the 44 Magnum. The cylinder walls are thinner than the 44 Mag because of the larger case but it can fire any "Ruger Only" load you find in a reloading manual and can handle all the +P loads from ammunition manufacturers.
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August 21st, 2012, 07:30 PM
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As the 'punkinlobber' says ... the link it to the cataloged .45 LARGE frame Convertible.
The medium frame flattop .45 Convertible is easily distinquished by it's 'obvious' flattop ...  | |
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August 22nd, 2012, 08:13 AM
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If you're interested in satin stainless, I stumbled across (and bought) a Distributor's Exclusive that is not listed @ Ruger.com, but is similar to this Williams gun.
It's a New Model Blackhawk, Bisley grip frame with black laminate grips, 45LC/45ACP in brushed stainless, 5 1/2 " barrel, pinned front sight, adjustable rear sight. The ACP cylinder is fluted and the LC cylinder is roll-marked with the usual Bisley graphics.
Catalog is: KRBN-455WX
Model: 00472
see: here
edit: According to Ruger: "This particular model is an active Williams Distributors exclusive, model #0472, that indeed is not on the website. This gun started shipping on July 24th of this year". My gun was test fired 20 Jul 12.
Last edited by pell; August 22nd, 2012 at 08:42 AM.
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August 22nd, 2012, 08:42 AM
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That's a nice gun Pell. How much does one like that go for and where did you get it?
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August 22nd, 2012, 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by tngunner  That's a nice gun Pell. How much does one like that go for and where did you get it? | Bought it 13 Aug 12 @ my LGS. Actually went there to buy the std BH 45 convertible. My son noticed this one and brought it to my attention.
Based on the usual markup @ my LGS, I would guess MSRP is about $700. Your retail would depend on your LGS's pricing policy.
I've edited the above post to note that it's a Williams exclusive, so, if your LGS has a relationship with Williams, they could order one for you.
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August 22nd, 2012, 02:09 PM
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I thought the OP's original question was about large frame vs. the mid size frame...and the link shown was for a blued Blackhawk (not a flat top)...guess I missed a post or something...The stainless guns shown appear to be distributor "specials"....my Lipsey's 44 Blackhawk flat top (my avitar picture) is a mid frame gun that will not handle the Ruger only loads and the same gun in stainless (don' t know if they made them then won't either. I dunno .
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August 22nd, 2012, 02:54 PM
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I just latched on to the first picture I ran across to show what a medium frame'flattop' looks like compared to the large frame BH that has 'sight ears' the OP was looking at as a FYI. I am a blued gun man myself . Much prefer blued when possible. Sorry I opened the SS can of worms.... I think the OP's question has been answered.
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August 22nd, 2012, 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by weldernewt53 tgunner . I checked the site I bought mine from. There is one there for $555. Check DJSGUNS.com He is a good guy to deal with. Just check gunbroker listings. | So is the Bisely convertible .45 like this one a large frame?
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August 22nd, 2012, 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by tngunner So is the Bisely convertible .45 like this one a large frame? | The gun described @ Post 7 is a large frame gun that will handle "Ruger only" loads.
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August 22nd, 2012, 04:12 PM
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The gun described by weldernewt in post #11 looks a little bit different than the one described by pell in post #7. Is the one in post #11 a flat top model? It doesn't appear to have the raised area on top of the frame in front of the rear sight.
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